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Post by om15 on Feb 19, 2023 21:12:55 GMT
I don't express strong or unreasonable beliefs, merely record facts as they become available. My observations enraged Jaydee, but that was because I was always correct.
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Post by morayloon on Mar 3, 2023 11:43:13 GMT
I don't express strong or unreasonable beliefs, merely record facts as they become available. My observations enraged Jaydee, but that was because I was always correct. I believe that you are a bullshitting troll. It wasn't only JD who got the better of you, every time, T has followed suit, as I did on the old Forum, and, also on the old Forum, YC debunked your "facts" time and again. You have always been been asked to back up your ridiculous remarks with some hard evidence. You don't respond but, a couple of days later, you repeat the same nonsense as if nothing had happened. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 4, 2023 12:22:51 GMT
Jaydee couldn't get the better of a pair of trousers, nevermind win an argument.
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Post by om15 on Mar 4, 2023 18:40:48 GMT
I think that recollections may differ on this, I used to be subject to huge furious responses containing a barrage of suspect statistics, however not much stood up to scrutiny. For example I often allude to the dire state of roads in Scotland due to the deep, dangerous and multiplying pot holes, JD would then treat us to an explosion of highly questionable figures supposedly issued by the Asphalt Association ( if there is such a body) instead of actually thinking about whether I might be correct.
So as a recap, my position is that my predictions about your First Minister failing to achieve an increasing level of support for Independence, my predictions about her fiscal competence and her longevity as FM has not been disproved by any of the cult supporters, including and especially you old chap.
Referring to someone who has opposing views as a bullshitting troll is a classic SNP copybook retort, hence their falling support and disintegrating management, they are a spent force with about as much drive as a used french letter, that is who you are supporting so enthusiastically.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 12:18:35 GMT
So as a recap, my position is that my predictions about your First Minister failing to achieve an increasing level of support for Independence, my predictions about her fiscal competence and her longevity as FM has not been disproved by any of the cult supporters, including and especially you old chap. Lets look at these predictions.
im no fan of sturgeon as you know , but i will defend her most of the time against ignorant foreigners .While the polls obviously do fluctuate , it was only last year the indy polls were as high as 58 % , and of course "the trend" of polls over a long terms is showing increasing support for indy , even under sturgeon.
Over the last thirty years we have went from where wales currently is to around average of 50 % possibly slightly more under MOE. So what are you talking about?
The majority of the fiscal levers in scotland are controlled by westmisnter not sturgeon or anyone else. Full fiscal autonomy from london is what independence is all about. You do realise that dont you?
This is nonsense. Yet again. All politicians have a shelf life , so sturgeons rule coming to an end isnt some great mystical prediction of yours , but merely something that happens to all politicians and leaders.
She is factually the longest serving first minister of scotland in a quarter of a century , and has by comparison saw off 5 fucking westminster prime ministers in her time.
If thats you telling us "she hasnt lasted long" then of course the bar and definition of longevity is being set incredibly high in some puerile attempt to rubbish someone you dont like .
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 13:44:46 GMT
Foreigners now are we? Fascist.
Sturgeon is a crooked piece of incompetent racist shite.
She badly managed the ferries, electric generation, public services and public infrastructure whilst playing to the racist minority of anti English bigots that Scotland sadly has.
Fortunately 2 million, outvoted you.
Your racist dream is as dead as Scotland's hopes of winning the 2022 world cup.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:56:35 GMT
Foreigners now are we? Fascist. Im scottish your english no ?
I have a scot birth certificate , you an english one no ?
is that not the definition of foreigner in your countries language?
Since 1922, the United Kingdom comprises four constituent countries: England, Scotland, and Wales (which collectively make up Great Britain), as well as Northern Ireland (variously described as a country, province or region)
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 14:41:21 GMT
You have a UK birth certificate.
I have a UK birth certificate.
We are not foreigners to each other.
The UK is a sovereign country.
Scotland isn't a sovereign country.
It's a non sovereign state which voted vociferously for continued membership of the UK 2 million to 1.6 million.
Your cult isn't breaking through the 1.4 million mark and you expect to overturn a vote of 2 million, because you hate the English.
It's a joke.
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Post by thomas on Mar 9, 2023 11:25:57 GMT
You have a UK birth certificate. Vinny the uk doesnt issue birth death or marriage certificates.
They come under three categories.
1. scottish
2. english and welsh
3. northern irish .
Birth, Death and Marriage Records
The majority of Scottish birth, death and marriage records are held in the custody of the Registrar General for Scotland at New Register House in Edinburgh
Birth, Death and Marriage Records from 1855 to the Present Day
Statutory civil registration was introduced in Scotland on 1 January 1855.
Pre-1855 Birth, Death and Marriage Records
The Church of Scotland had responsibility for registration before 1 January 1855 but a few of the records listed below were created by other churches or by private individuals.
If you are english born living in scotland , and want a copy of your birth certificate , a scottish register office cannot give you a copy , you need to apply to your own country in england.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 11:27:08 GMT
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Post by thomas on Mar 9, 2023 11:32:06 GMT
vinny did you see this bit in your link ....
do you know how i know this vinny? my wife is english , and has a seperate birth certificate (english and welsh ) to my scottish birth certificate.
Its frightening your ignorance on many of the basic facts of the yookay and its existance as a multi national state , yet you rail on this forum daily about how much you love it while appearing to know fuck all about it.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 14:55:26 GMT
UK Authority.
Meanwhile UK Passport.
UK Driving Licence.
You are BRITISH.
Time Scotland was deleted from the map.
England and Wales too.
United Kingdom of Great Britain.
Best country in the world.
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Post by thomas on Mar 9, 2023 15:11:58 GMT
What uk authority?
Vinny my link earlier tells you it isnt a uk authority , its the scottish register that deals with scottish birth certificates. The head office is in my capital city Edinburgh.
In your link it tells you register offices in england and wales deal with english and welsh birth certificates. The main office from your link is in southend.
It even tells you this nugget in your link.......
There’s a different process for getting certificates in Scotland and getting certificates in Northern Ireland.
are you now telling us you dont believe the information in your own link?
Sure but the uk passport is a travel document. I have one. It isnt a marker for national identity of some imaginary british nation as people outside of these islands like gibraltar , and the falkland islands have one as well. during the days of empire , anyone born in any of the empire nations for example india had one as well.
Im just shocked about how little you know about the uk , and how it works , but to be honest vinny , i am rather unsurprised......
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 16:36:41 GMT
The UK is a sovereign country.
Scotland isn't.
That's the bottom line.
A few concessions were made centuries ago back in the days when it was felt necessary to placate the likes of the Jacobites so they didn't invade England, but Scotland isn't a sovereign country. It's time to consign it to the history books and abolish it.
Same with England.
UK all the way.
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Post by thomas on Mar 10, 2023 10:07:18 GMT
A few concessions were made centuries ago back in the days when it was felt necessary to placate the likes of the Jacobites so they didn't invade England, but Scotland isn't a sovereign country. It's time to consign it to the history books and abolish it. so you have now stopped arguing with yourself and your own link , but admit ther is no such thing as a uk birth certificate?  everntually we do get there in the end. Every thread , we see the same thing take place....brexiters being dragged kicking and scremaing to accept reality.
Nothing to do with placating jacobites. Re read the thread and links. Scotland has scottish birth certificates due to the agreements made in the treaty of union ,regarding scotland maintaining many of the then pillars of nationhood after union such as law church and education.
The scottish church , independent of englands ( hence why no uk church ) continued to record births deaths and marriages as my earlier link makes plain until the reforms of 1855 when civil registers took over. so what the fuck are you gibbering about jacobites for?
i have never claimed scotland is fully soveriegn , although it does have power over devolved matters and is of course sovereign in terms of church law and education. It is though ,and always will be a country.
What along with england and the uk as part of our beloved european union?
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everntually we do get there in the end. Every thread , we see the same thing take place....brexiters being dragged kicking and scremaing to accept reality.