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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 29, 2023 16:11:12 GMT
This Mind Zone thread is being trolled by the forum moderator. Any responses on my part can be used against me, and since there's no point in this exchange I will leave it there. God it's so tedious when people play the moderator card. Here we have someone equating dismissing his poorly thought out theory that it is eco-terrorists setting fires with trolling. As far as I'm aware moderators have the same right to engage in the debates as any other member of the site. Any responses on anyone's part can be used against them which is why you should at least attempt to provide evidence for claims as spurious as B4's. Of course if you can't do this you can claim you are being trolled and run away but most observers will see this as an admission that they have no such evidence.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 16:26:57 GMT
You miss the point. Fires aren't started by climate change they are enabled by it. Sorry monte im not missing the point. Good luck trying to sell net zero , higher taxes and lower standard of living to the ordinary working man "to save the planet".
Yeah I mean, who wants to save the planet. 🙄
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 16:30:17 GMT
Sorry monte im not missing the point. Good luck trying to sell net zero , higher taxes and lower standard of living to the ordinary working man "to save the planet".
Yeah I mean, who wants to save the planet. 🙄 Most folk i would imagine. the point is you have to balance those well meaning aims against what the public will credibly accept to further saving the planet. The current net zero fantasy isnt something i believe the public are going to put up with.
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 16:33:36 GMT
The awfull truth about heat pumps.......
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 29, 2023 16:40:31 GMT
The awfull truth about heat pumps.......
Heat pumps are a great invention. What would you do without a fridge in hot weather?
Over-unity efficiency in electrical heating is exactly what you want.
You just have to learn how to exploit the technology properly, just as a car is useless unless you can drive.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 17:56:49 GMT
Yeah I mean, who wants to save the planet. 🙄 Most folk i would imagine. the point is you have to balance those well meaning aims against what the public will credibly accept to further saving the planet. The current net zero fantasy isnt something i believe the public are going to put up with.
The problem with that argument is that it assumes there is no cost to doing nothing.
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 18:07:24 GMT
Most folk i would imagine. the point is you have to balance those well meaning aims against what the public will credibly accept to further saving the planet. The current net zero fantasy isnt something i believe the public are going to put up with.
The problem with that argument is that it assumes there is no cost to doing nothing. the problem with your doomongering arguments are once morethat you think the public are stupid , and will easily sacrifice their standard of living to blindly follow net zero and everything associated with climate change. Newsflash zany. They wont.
Of course , i dont expect you to take on board realpolitik , as i have seen in many threads you involved yourself in like for exmaple the farage thread , your cult like politics and new labour fantasy tends to shroud your judgement and pragmatic reality.
Politicians are going to start seeing the widespread public disaproval with net zero and climate doomongering pretty soon.
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 18:25:26 GMT
Nobel Prize Winner Who Doesn't Believe Climate Crisis Has Speech Canceled
Nobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to Co2 Coalition, a non-profit organization that believes carbon dioxide is beneficial to society.
"Nobel Laureate (Physics 2022) Dr. John Clauser was to present a seminar on climate models to the IMF on Thursday and now his talk has been summarily cancelled," the Co2 Coalition said in a statement. "According to an email he received last evening, the Director of the Independent Evaluation Office of the International Monetary Fund, Pablo Moreno, had read the flyer for John's July 25 zoom talk and summarily and immediately canceled the talk. Technically, it was 'postponed,'" the statement added.
The announcement by the Co2 Coalition came shortly after Clauser made comments disputing climate change during a speech in Seoul, South Korea, at Quantum Korea 2023, an international conference centered on the global trends of quantum ecosystem innovations from the academic, government and private sectors.
www.newsweek.com/nobel-prize-winner-who-doesnt-believe-climate-crisis-has-speech-canceled-1815020
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 18:29:40 GMT
The problem with that argument is that it assumes there is no cost to doing nothing. the problem with your doomongering arguments are once morethat you think the public are stupid , and will easily sacrifice their standard of living to blindly follow net zero and everything associated with climate change. Newsflash zany. They wont.
Of course , i dont expect you to take on board realpolitik , as i have seen in many threads you involved yourself in like for exmaple the farage thread , your cult like politics and new labour fantasy tends to shroud your judgement and pragmatic reality.
Politicians are going to start seeing the widespread public disaproval with net zero and climate doomongering pretty soon.
Only in your tiny universe could you combine Farage and Climate change into a single subject. As for realpolitik. Fact is more people believe climate change is happening than not, by some considerable amount. Do you even know what net zero is?
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 18:36:13 GMT
Nobel Prize Winner Who Doesn't Believe Climate Crisis Has Speech Canceled
Nobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to Co2 Coalition, a non-profit organization that believes carbon dioxide is beneficial to society.
"Nobel Laureate (Physics 2022) Dr. John Clauser was to present a seminar on climate models to the IMF on Thursday and now his talk has been summarily cancelled," the Co2 Coalition said in a statement. "According to an email he received last evening, the Director of the Independent Evaluation Office of the International Monetary Fund, Pablo Moreno, had read the flyer for John's July 25 zoom talk and summarily and immediately canceled the talk. Technically, it was 'postponed,'" the statement added.
The announcement by the Co2 Coalition came shortly after Clauser made comments disputing climate change during a speech in Seoul, South Korea, at Quantum Korea 2023, an international conference centered on the global trends of quantum ecosystem innovations from the academic, government and private sectors.
www.newsweek.com/nobel-prize-winner-who-doesnt-believe-climate-crisis-has-speech-canceled-1815020
Excellent. A professor of Aeronautical engineering will not be allowed to talk in a seminar on climate modelling after saying twice. "The world we live in today is filled with misinformation. It is up to each of you to serve as judges, distinguishing truth from falsehood based on accurate observations of phenomena."
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 18:36:41 GMT
the problem with your doomongering arguments are once morethat you think the public are stupid , and will easily sacrifice their standard of living to blindly follow net zero and everything associated with climate change. Newsflash zany. They wont.
Of course , i dont expect you to take on board realpolitik , as i have seen in many threads you involved yourself in like for exmaple the farage thread , your cult like politics and new labour fantasy tends to shroud your judgement and pragmatic reality.
Politicians are going to start seeing the widespread public disaproval with net zero and climate doomongering pretty soon.
Only in your tiny universe could you combine Farage and Climate change into a single subject. As for realpolitik. Fact is more people believe climate change is happening than not, by some considerable amount. Do you even know what net zero is? everybody believes the climate changes zany. That goes without saying. The argument is about what causes it , and if its man , what can reasonably be done about it. Realpolitik , which we know middle class liberals and new labour dont understand , tells you the public wont accept a lowering in life standards to deal with it .
is this a serious question or another of your pathetic attmepts at a put down?
With the amount of face you have lost on this forum over farage in recent days , im not sure your fragile ego could take much more beatings .
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Post by thomas on Jul 29, 2023 18:38:14 GMT
Nobel Prize Winner Who Doesn't Believe Climate Crisis Has Speech Canceled
Nobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to Co2 Coalition, a non-profit organization that believes carbon dioxide is beneficial to society.
"Nobel Laureate (Physics 2022) Dr. John Clauser was to present a seminar on climate models to the IMF on Thursday and now his talk has been summarily cancelled," the Co2 Coalition said in a statement. "According to an email he received last evening, the Director of the Independent Evaluation Office of the International Monetary Fund, Pablo Moreno, had read the flyer for John's July 25 zoom talk and summarily and immediately canceled the talk. Technically, it was 'postponed,'" the statement added.
The announcement by the Co2 Coalition came shortly after Clauser made comments disputing climate change during a speech in Seoul, South Korea, at Quantum Korea 2023, an international conference centered on the global trends of quantum ecosystem innovations from the academic, government and private sectors.
www.newsweek.com/nobel-prize-winner-who-doesnt-believe-climate-crisis-has-speech-canceled-1815020
Excellent. i though you would say that zany. Across two recent threads and differing subjects , we have all seen your anti democratic stance in action where you consistently support those "who hold the wrong view" being cancelled .
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 18:39:31 GMT
Only in your tiny universe could you combine Farage and Climate change into a single subject. As for realpolitik. Fact is more people believe climate change is happening than not, by some considerable amount. Do you even know what net zero is? Everybody knows what I mean by climate change. Everyone also knows what pedantic means.
is this a serious question or another of your pathetic attmepts at a put down?
With the amount of face you have lost on this forum over farage in recent days , im not sure your fragile ego could take much more beatings .
I've lost no face. Do you know what it is or not? Its not too late to look it up.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 29, 2023 18:42:58 GMT
This Mind Zone thread is being trolled by the forum moderator. Any responses on my part can be used against me, and since there's no point in this exchange I will leave it there. God it's so tedious when people play the moderator card. It goes with the territory Sadly Given the actions of JSO why is it unreasonable to think that? Course you do,but as with above It goes with the territory It will be used against you at times.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 29, 2023 18:44:07 GMT
i though you would say that zany. Across two recent threads and differing subjects , we have all seen your anti democratic stance in action where you consistently support those "who hold the wrong view" being cancelled . Anti democratic. You mean the stupid idea that everyone should be given equal speaking space on any subject regardless of their knowledge base. And each be given equal weight. Yeah. I got the lung specialist and a Ferrari expert in to discuss my mums COPD. The lung specialist wittered on about her smoking, but the Ferrari expert says she'll be fine with a new carburettor. Sigh.
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