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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 18, 2023 17:15:42 GMT
No that was not the reason it disappeared. It was attacked in very dirty ways by the establishment, which in case you were wondering, is its own dictatorship. I followed the goings on of the BNP closely, not that I was a supporter, but for research reasons. The BNP were very popular amongst the working class. My main reason for not supporting them was they were clueless regarding economics, but then most of the working class are. They do all the non-thinking jobs. I followed the BNP reporting very closely as well as it was clear from the Parliament Green physical assault on Brons and Griffin that powerful forces were trying to ensure both a bad and inaccurate press and if that was not possible then detailed misinformation and physical assault. In terms of providing ammunition for that attack, the BNP were relatively easy meat however the public that turned to them were more interested in what they proposed to do as regards two very important aspects to many voters; the EU and mass immigration. Both were strongly supported in establishment circles yet widely reviled within the old Labour supporting group the British Working Class who after Blair and NewLabour found themselves with no place to call a political home. The image of a BNP supporter painted by the establishment press was 95% wrong. It was clear there were some thugs who tried to tag along with the BNP from the old days of the National Front, but there was one time a mentally ill young girl got thrown into prison unlawfully for what she said and was treated extremely brutally. She was at her wits end and should never have been put in a prison, but all these BNP members were there for her and sending cash to help the family and getting lawyers and all that. They really did have hearts of gold and it impressed me greatly. None of the BNP members had much money. Typically they were forced to do min wage jobs, blacklisted from employment and I felt sorry for them. They were the ones most affected by immigration. It was not safe for their kids to use the streets. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 18, 2023 19:41:37 GMT
No that was not the reason it disappeared. It was attacked in very dirty ways by the establishment, which in case you were wondering, is its own dictatorship. I followed the goings on of the BNP closely, not that I was a supporter, but for research reasons. The BNP were very popular amongst the working class. My main reason for not supporting them was they were clueless regarding economics, but then most of the working class are. They do all the non-thinking jobs. They barely got a million votes at their peak. It was an old-school left wing party that was a threat to the Labour party. It become a little more popular after Labour abandoned the working classes for corporate money, neo-con wars and soft genocide, but even then the BNP didn't have a big impact. The establishment shut them down not only in the world of media, but also in all public positions. It was desperation from mostly disaffected Labour supporters that increased the BNP vote dramatically, unfortunately their history and their past antics got in the way and through a concerted and coordinated attack the establishment managed to largely destroy it with infighting doing the rest. It left those supporters with precious few areas to go to with only UKIP fitting the bill specifically because it was anti EU and a supporter of controlled immigration. A million votes from effectively a standing start was enough to worry the powers that be, God forbid the British working man had anyone in Westminster whose sole aim was to support the British working man. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 18, 2023 19:53:06 GMT
View Attachment The man on the Left is John Tyndall, a former Chairman of the BNP Members of Leftist or Left leaning political parties DO NOT dress up in Nazi uniforms or proudly display Nazi signs Anyone who thinks or believes that the British National Party is a Left Wing Political Party is round the fucking bend Then we have to ask do we judge people and parties on their history. If we do then US Democrats are supporters of slavery, Labour party heroes in the 20s and 30s were Eugenics minded. Tyndall died in 2005, the party had clear policies in their manifestos, perhaps you should look at those and be critical of their intent, much is quite LW. Do we judge a party on what they say now or what they have said. Should we judge Labour now on Jeremy Corbyn just a few short years ago? |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 18, 2023 20:00:08 GMT
I followed the BNP reporting very closely as well as it was clear from the Parliament Green physical assault on Brons and Griffin that powerful forces were trying to ensure both a bad and inaccurate press and if that was not possible then detailed misinformation and physical assault. In terms of providing ammunition for that attack, the BNP were relatively easy meat however the public that turned to them were more interested in what they proposed to do as regards two very important aspects to many voters; the EU and mass immigration. Both were strongly supported in establishment circles yet widely reviled within the old Labour supporting group the British Working Class who after Blair and NewLabour found themselves with no place to call a political home. The image of a BNP supporter painted by the establishment press was 95% wrong. It was clear there were some thugs who tried to tag along with the BNP from the old days of the National Front, but there was one time a mentally ill young girl got thrown into prison unlawfully for what she said and was treated extremely brutally. She was at her wits end and should never have been put in a prison, but all these BNP members were there for her and sending cash to help the family and getting lawyers and all that. They really did have hearts of gold and it impressed me greatly. None of the BNP members had much money. Typically they were forced to do min wage jobs, blacklisted from employment and I felt sorry for them. They were the ones most affected by immigration. It was not safe for their kids to use the streets. On Parliamnet green two MEPs were physically attacked with darts and placards and were chased from their press conference by a mob. No protest was launched to my recall by any MEP or MP where representatives of the electorate freely elected were unable to outline their intent in a public space. The same happened to Farage in Edinburgh where very few spoke out as regards the physical threats against him and the belligerent mob tactics. No one spoke against that especially in Holyrood, the lone voice was George Galloway who stated clearly that irrespective of his views Farage had the right to expand on his political views. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 20:32:14 GMT
There is no possible defence of the BNP, they are are thoroughly nasty, vile and extreme organisation which contained MANY neo-nazis and lots of people with very extreme views.
On Johnson Beharry VC, Nick Griffin said in 2009 that the war hero "only got the Victoria Cross because he was black", and that saving the lives of 30 fellow soldiers in Iraq was "simply routine".
The London Nail Bomber David Copeland, who murdered three people and injured dozens of others was a member of the BNP.
The BNP is, or was a party full of hatred, hatred towards anyone who was different, hatred towards many minorities, for no other reason that they were either black, Asian, Jewish or Muslim.
Hitler would be very proud of both them and their supporters
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 20:47:26 GMT
There is no possible defence of the BNP, they are are thoroughly nasty, vile and extreme organisation which contained MANY neo-nazis and lots of people with very extreme views. On Johnson Beharry VC, Nick Griffin said in 2009 that the war hero "only got the Victoria Cross because he was black", and that saving the lives of 30 fellow soldiers in Iraq was "simply routine". The London Nail Bomber David Copeland, who murdered three people and injured dozens of others was a member of the BNP. The BNP is, or was a party full of hatred, hatred towards anyone who was different, hatred towards many minorities, for no other reason that they were either black, Asian, Jewish or Muslim. Hitler would be very proud of both them and their supporters Your problem is that you take one bad person and make it about everyone. Your Labour party has had peadophiles and all sorts of scum within its ranks, but I don't see people claiming that's what the Labour party stands for. It's also obvious from a number of your posts that you confuse your personal feelings with reality, where your likes and dislikes is meant to dictate what everyone else is allowed. The Labour party is clearly the most fascist of the lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 20:58:12 GMT
There is no possible defence of the BNP, they are are thoroughly nasty, vile and extreme organisation which contained MANY neo-nazis and lots of people with very extreme views. On Johnson Beharry VC, Nick Griffin said in 2009 that the war hero "only got the Victoria Cross because he was black", and that saving the lives of 30 fellow soldiers in Iraq was "simply routine". The London Nail Bomber David Copeland, who murdered three people and injured dozens of others was a member of the BNP. The BNP is, or was a party full of hatred, hatred towards anyone who was different, hatred towards many minorities, for no other reason that they were either black, Asian, Jewish or Muslim. Hitler would be very proud of both them and their supporters Your problem is that you take one bad person and make it about everyone. Your Labour party has had peadophiles and all sorts of scum within its ranks, but I don't see people claiming that's what the Labour party stands for. It's also obvious from a number of your posts that you confuse your personal feelings with reality, where your likes and dislikes is meant to dictate what everyone else is allowed. The Labour party is clearly the most fascist of the lot. Your post is childish, all of the main political parties have had criminals, including paedophiles The - BIG - ( Very Big ) difference is that the BNP is a neo-nazi organisation, which was packed with neo nazis, not just the odd one or two. I have earlier posted a picture of former BNP chairman John Tyndall wearing a Nazi uniform and proudly displaying a Nazi flag. Your utterly deluded |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 18, 2023 20:58:48 GMT
There is no possible defence of the BNP, they are are thoroughly nasty, vile and extreme organisation which contained MANY neo-nazis and lots of people with very extreme views. On Johnson Beharry VC, Nick Griffin said in 2009 that the war hero "only got the Victoria Cross because he was black", and that saving the lives of 30 fellow soldiers in Iraq was "simply routine". The London Nail Bomber David Copeland, who murdered three people and injured dozens of others was a member of the BNP. The BNP is, or was a party full of hatred, hatred towards anyone who was different, hatred towards many minorities, for no other reason that they were either black, Asian, Jewish or Muslim. Hitler would be very proud of both them and their supporters That was the image, no the reality, and some of the nasty stuff could have been state actors. Do you know of the PC that was sleeping with the green protestors? It's call infiltration. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 21:03:32 GMT
Your problem is that you take one bad person and make it about everyone. Your Labour party has had peadophiles and all sorts of scum within its ranks, but I don't see people claiming that's what the Labour party stands for. It's also obvious from a number of your posts that you confuse your personal feelings with reality, where your likes and dislikes is meant to dictate what everyone else is allowed. The Labour party is clearly the most fascist of the lot. Your post is childish, all of the main political parties have had criminals, including paedophiles The - BIG - ( Very Big ) difference is that the BNP is a neo-nazi organisation, which was packed with neo nazis, not just the odd one or two. I have earlier posted a picture of former BNP chairman John Tyndall wearing a Nazi uniform and proudly displaying a Nazi flag. Your utterly deluded Hilarious. In the real world the BNP was a perfectly legal political party that operated within the law. One picture of a Nazi flag (has it even been verified?) does not mean it was packed with neo-Nazis. I didn't find anything in their manifesto that was even that extreme and could have been an old Labour manifesto.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 18, 2023 21:07:58 GMT
There is no possible defence of the BNP, they are are thoroughly nasty, vile and extreme organisation which contained MANY neo-nazis and lots of people with very extreme views. On Johnson Beharry VC, Nick Griffin said in 2009 that the war hero "only got the Victoria Cross because he was black", and that saving the lives of 30 fellow soldiers in Iraq was "simply routine". The London Nail Bomber David Copeland, who murdered three people and injured dozens of others was a member of the BNP. The BNP is, or was a party full of hatred, hatred towards anyone who was different, hatred towards many minorities, for no other reason that they were either black, Asian, Jewish or Muslim. Hitler would be very proud of both them and their supporters Now you are at odds with the truth and your animosity clouds you vision. Many people are openly saying and frankly openly believing that many people only get many things because they are ethnic minorities. What is the evidence for this apart from a multitude of anecdotes, well the law actually makes that possible and probable to be the case and enforces such selection in public bodies. So the Beharry case is a possibility and fair game for comment although I would say the history of VCs makes it unlikely, but we live in strange selective times. London nail bomber was not a member of the BNP he was an ex member of the in the same way Oswald Mosely was an ex member of the Labour party. The evidence for your full of hatred rant? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 23:06:56 GMT
"I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat" ( Nick Griffin 1998 )
A Holocaust denier
A man defended on these forums by several posters incliding sandypine - B-4, Baron Von Lotsov
Obviously supporters of Holocaust denial, neo-nazis, extremists, terrorists and anti British sentiment
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Post by wapentake on Jul 18, 2023 23:17:30 GMT
"I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat" ( Nick Griffin 1998 ) A Holocaust denier A man defended on these forums by several posters incliding sandypine - B-4, Baron Von Lotsov Obviously supporters of Holocaust denial, neo-nazis, extremists, terrorists and anti British sentiment Sid I have no time for extremists be they left,right or religious. But aren’t the mainstream parties paving the way for them by their actions? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 19, 2023 1:34:17 GMT
Yes of course the mainstream parties are giving them ample reason to exist. What happened to the BNP could happen to GB News. Today I heard the gay guy is getting serious intimidation from his gay mate who is planting false stories in the media and a whole load of trouble. The thing is the establishment find weaknesses. It'll be our intelligence agencies doing it. They work for the government.You always know it is them by the kind of dirty tricks they employ. I think GB News aught to get a bit more objective and try and be a little less emotional. It's got a promising future, but it could be wrecked by the ones who are fooling around. Balance in reporting is really important for a news channel. If they sort that out it would appeal to more moderate people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 5:07:13 GMT
"I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat" ( Nick Griffin 1998 ) A Holocaust denier A man defended on these forums by several posters incliding sandypine - B-4, Baron Von Lotsov Obviously supporters of Holocaust denial, neo-nazis, extremists, terrorists and anti British sentiment Sid I have no time for extremists be they left,right or religious. But aren’t the mainstream parties paving the way for them by their actions? The thing is, I was merely offering an objective view of the BNP based on their policies, yet a Starmer Labour supporter is lying about me and other people on this thread by claiming we're supporting Nick Griffin and even attempting to associate us with some comment made 25 years ago (I haven't bothered to verify it). No where have I said I supported the BNP. In fact, I have never supported the BNP, just as I do not support NuLabour.
See how Labour extremism and their lies work to attack individuals?
The Labour Party = anti-semitism Black Lives Matter = anti-semitism.
It's strong on the left because of the mantra regarding jewry.
The very people the Labour party let down, smeared and treated like scum are the very people the Labour party once championed for support, so of course they're going to go in search of something else. It won't matter what that something else is, if it is seen as a threat to Labour or the establishment parties it will be lied about, smeared and even violently attacked, whilst planted establishment goons take it down from the inside. Even Farage and the UKIP, who proscribed the BNP, which meant ex-BNP members couldn't be members, are smeared with the same BS, and they were mostly a threat to the Tories.
The New Labour party is the most disgusting party I have ever known.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 19, 2023 6:05:48 GMT
Sid I have no time for extremists be they left,right or religious. But aren’t the mainstream parties paving the way for them by their actions? The thing is, I was merely offering an objective view of the BNP based on their policies, yet a Starmer Labour supporter is lying about me and other people on this thread by claiming we're supporting Nick Griffin and even attempting to associate us with some comment made 25 years ago (I haven't bothered to verify it). No where have I said I supported the BNP. In fact, I have never supported the BNP, just as I do not support NuLabour.
See how Labour extremism and their lies work to attack individuals?
The Labour Party = anti-semitism Black Lives Matter = anti-semitism.
It's strong on the left because of the mantra regarding jewry.
The very people the Labour party let down, smeared and treated like scum are the very people the Labour party once championed for support, so of course they're going to go in search of something else. It won't matter what that something else is, if it is seen as a threat to Labour or the establishment parties it will be lied about, smeared and even violently attacked, whilst planted establishment goons take it down from the inside. Even Farage and the UKIP, who proscribed the BNP, which meant ex-BNP members couldn't be members, are smeared with the same BS, and they were mostly a threat to the Tories.
The New Labour party is the most disgusting party I have ever known.
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