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Post by sheepy on Jul 19, 2023 7:32:29 GMT
Yes of course the mainstream parties are giving them ample reason to exist. What happened to the BNP could happen to GB News. Today I heard the gay guy is getting serious intimidation from his gay mate who is planting false stories in the media and a whole load of trouble. The thing is the establishment find weaknesses. It'll be our intelligence agencies doing it. They work for the government.You always know it is them by the kind of dirty tricks they employ. I think GB News aught to get a bit more objective and try and be a little less emotional. It's got a promising future, but it could be wrecked by the ones who are fooling around. Balance in reporting is really important for a news channel. If they sort that out it would appeal to more moderate people. On the Brightside I doubt you will get a hand in running GB news. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 19, 2023 10:50:49 GMT
Yes of course the mainstream parties are giving them ample reason to exist. What happened to the BNP could happen to GB News. Today I heard the gay guy is getting serious intimidation from his gay mate who is planting false stories in the media and a whole load of trouble. The thing is the establishment find weaknesses. It'll be our intelligence agencies doing it. They work for the government.You always know it is them by the kind of dirty tricks they employ. I think GB News aught to get a bit more objective and try and be a little less emotional. It's got a promising future, but it could be wrecked by the ones who are fooling around. Balance in reporting is really important for a news channel. If they sort that out it would appeal to more moderate people. On the Brightside I doubt you will get a hand in running GB news. Why is that bright? |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 19, 2023 15:17:15 GMT
"I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat" ( Nick Griffin 1998 ) A Holocaust denier A man defended on these forums by several posters incliding sandypine - B-4, Baron Von Lotsov Obviously supporters of Holocaust denial, neo-nazis, extremists, terrorists and anti British sentiment I support Anjem Choudary's right to express his views within the law, that does not make me a supporter of Islamism, I support Jeremy Corbyn's right to express his views openly to others, that does not make me a LW Zealot, I supported Nick Griffin's right to express his views within the law. Why does that fact make me a holocaust denier and a neo-Nazi. I have to ask do you support the right of the foregoing three to express their political views? It seems that you do not. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 20, 2023 6:27:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 9:15:55 GMT
What's that got to do with GB News or the price of fish? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 20, 2023 14:13:55 GMT
Sorry, didn't have time to expand on that as I was busy, but it was to answer the point in the post above about the right to holocaust deny. Although there is no specific law in this country, such communications may contravene other legislation, as in this case.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 20, 2023 21:43:14 GMT
That GB News economist chap Liam someone or other was talking utter shit the other day. He told the audience the supermarkets were causing the price increases in food and said suppliers of the products to them has not seen much inflation, taking 1-2% ish. Well it turns out the competition agency of the government which keeps on changing its name found that supermarket margins were normal at around 3%, increasing from a figure of 1.8% during covid. I wonder if GB News mentioned that News item given that they said it only a few days ago. Truth is something they seems to be short on, a bit like the BBC in fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2023 8:55:05 GMT
Liam Halligan is a very accomplished economist, financial expert and expert commentator. I very much respect his views over any forum keyboard warrior.
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 23, 2023 8:21:18 GMT
I think GB News have a few more pressing concerns than OFCOM at the moment.
Last night I was chatting with a marketing consultant I bump into occasionally at parties. Since we last met, she's been called in to advise GBN on upping their advertising revenue.
In a nutshell, it's hopeless. A-List companies don't want to be seen associating with them (It's hardly a surprise to guess how advertisers see them), and they're pretty stuck paying high salaries to their presenters on an advertising base built on mobility scooters, funeral plans, and incontinence pads. (Buying advertising there is CHEAP.)
Unsustainable.
A tiny Freeview channel I occasionally give some advice to (old, mainly British, movies and TV shows) has an almost IDENTICAL advertiser base, yet remains successful - they only have three paid employees, and the few onscreen presenters are paid a pittance on a session by session basis. THAT'S the way to run a channel on a shoestring.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 23, 2023 8:26:33 GMT
I think GB News have a few more pressing concerns than OFCOM at the moment. Last night I was chatting with a marketing consultant I bump into occasionally at parties. Since we last met, she's been called in to advise GBN on upping their advertising revenue. In a nutshell, it's hopeless. A-List companies don't want to be seen associating with them (It's hardly a surprise to guess how advertisers see them), and they're pretty stuck paying high salaries to their presenters on an advertising base built on mobility scooters, funeral plans, and incontinence pads. (Buying advertising there is CHEAP.) Unsustainable. A tiny Freeview channel I occasionally give some advice to (old, mainly British, movies and TV shows) has an almost IDENTICAL advertiser base, yet remains successful - they only have three paid employees, and the few onscreen presenters are paid a pittance on a session by session basis. THAT'S the way to run a channel on a shoestring. Maybe, but it wouldn't be the first time advertisers had killed a media outlet by getting them to abandon its target audience. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 23, 2023 8:32:53 GMT
..it wouldn't be the first time advertisers had killed a media outlet by getting them to abandon its target audience. Advertisers wouldn't be "getting them" to do anything or, indeed, setting out to "kill" them. GB News are free to conduct themselves precisely as they wish. If firms want to advertise with them, they will. There's no agenda or conspiracy at work here. |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 23, 2023 8:39:24 GMT
..it wouldn't be the first time advertisers had killed a media outlet by getting them to abandon its target audience. Advertisers wouldn't be "getting them" to do anything or, indeed, setting out to "kill" them. GB News are free to conduct themselves precisely as they wish. If firms want to advertise with them, they will. There's no agenda or conspiracy at work here. Probably not, but I am speaking about advertising agencies who do like certain target audiences I don't think GB news sees itself as run of the mill, there is of course a downside of that, they are not the BBC who can introduce its own agendas into programming because they are paid for by the taxpayer. Which of course is how all of this started by Andrew Neil not wanting to become another puppet for the BBC agenda. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 23, 2023 8:47:24 GMT
I am speaking about advertising agencies who do like certain target audiences.. It's a fact that advertisers avoid "certain target audiences" - but once again, that's nothing sinister. It's about money. "Can the audience of this programme AFFORD the goods I'm selling - and do they have any INTEREST in it?" If the premium advertisers thought they could shift a few units by hawking their goods on GBN, they would. |
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Post by Orac on Jul 23, 2023 8:58:07 GMT
..it wouldn't be the first time advertisers had killed a media outlet by getting them to abandon its target audience. Advertisers wouldn't be "getting them" to do anything or, indeed, setting out to "kill" them. GB News are free to conduct themselves precisely as they wish. If firms want to advertise with them, they will. There's no agenda or conspiracy at work here. I think this is a rather naive view. It is rather how the system is supposed to work, but the working assumption behind this model is that no agent/s with an ulterior motive gain significant influence. This assumption is usually a good one because it is reasonable to assume an ideological fruitcake gaining significant influence would almost certainly itself require a significant market distortion. The problem with both these assumptions is we know that gigantic and persistent market distortions have been forcibly applied and these distortions act in favour of fruit-cakery and against merit/competence. We now have a system wide competency crisis. |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 23, 2023 9:22:51 GMT
I am speaking about advertising agencies who do like certain target audiences.. It's a fact that advertisers avoid "certain target audiences" - but once again, that's nothing sinister. It's about money. "Can the audience of this programme AFFORD the goods I'm selling - and do they have any INTEREST in it?" If the premium advertisers thought they could shift a few units by hawking their goods on GBN, they would. Very well spotted Walter, I am one of those who spots things that others wouldn't see in a million years. |
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