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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 14, 2023 15:13:18 GMT
Gbnews has clearly criticized the Chinese communist party again. It's all very predictable. The cause of that was Tobias Elwood, who is another fledgling with its beak wide open hoping mother bird at the Pentagon will feed it. He has interests in what they calla private security research type institute which writes reports and does research for the military.
These corrupt bastards who lie all the time are destabilising our international relationships and destroying past good will and trust built up between major economies that we rely on for trade. They are doing the exact opposite to what they claim and causing economic destruction. You start lying about one country then many other countries see the treatment and unfairness of it all and their industries factor this in as additional risk when signing international investment deals. If you are responsible for billions of investment of other people's money you take a very dim view of the influence these people have. A mad person is said to be more dangerous than an evil person, because at least with an evil person you can predict their moves. These people make this shit up from their imagination. Those who actually live in the countries they profess to know about, know for certain how wayward their imaginations are. They are seen as the classic clown, and Johnson was seen as king of the clowns.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 15:13:32 GMT
I see Patrick Christys of GB News has been suspended from Twitter for making a joke that they took too seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 15:38:53 GMT
GB News is the least watched and least popular source of news, and despite what many say about SKY News and BBC News, they are both unbiased and trusted far more than GB News. GB News is the only news channel in the UK which is biased, is openy biased, and has ONLY right wing commentaters including Nigel ( Frog Face ) Farage and Mr Aristocratic Multi Millionaire Jacob Rees Mogg. How do you know it is the least watched? If it was the least watched then Farage would not have won anything. GB news is gaining viewers largely because people are turning away from the BBC and Sky both of whom tend to control outlook, ignore some aspects of the news and concentrate on others. People tend to notice these things and make allowances but eventually they realise they are being taken for mugs. According to Reuters Research Institute ( most watched / listened to / read News ) 1 BBC News 50% 2 ITV News 27% 3 SKY News 15% 4 Channel 4 09% 5 Daily Mail / Mail on Sunday 09% 6 Commercial Radio News 07% 7 Local / Region Newspaper 07% 8 Metro 05% 9 GB News 05% According to BARB the British Audience Research Bureau - BBC remains the most watched TV broadcaster, consistently beats all other channels in the TV ratings, is the most watched and listened to news. I repeat what I stated - that GB News is openly Right Wing in nature, why would anyone who wishes to consume the news impartialy and objectively watch an openly biased source of news. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 14, 2023 16:07:48 GMT
How do you know it is the least watched? If it was the least watched then Farage would not have won anything. GB news is gaining viewers largely because people are turning away from the BBC and Sky both of whom tend to control outlook, ignore some aspects of the news and concentrate on others. People tend to notice these things and make allowances but eventually they realise they are being taken for mugs. According to Reuters Research Institute ( most watched / listened to / read News ) 1 BBC News 50% 2 ITV News 27% 3 SKY News 15% 4 Channel 4 09% 5 Daily Mail / Mail on Sunday 09% 6 Commercial Radio News 07% 7 Local / Region Newspaper 07% 8 Metro 05% 9 GB News 05% According to BARB the British Audience Research Bureau - BBC remains the most watched TV broadcaster, consistently beats all other channels in the TV ratings, is the most watched and listened to news. I repeat what I stated - that GB News is openly Right Wing in nature, why would anyone who wishes to consume the news impartialy and objectively watch an openly biased source of news. So not the least watched if you include the whole table where Channel 5 news resides two points lower. Barb of course is not a random sample by any stretch. This is where you have to consider an objective point of view and view it not from a leftcentric attitude. Could you explain on what basis you are judging GBnews as openly RW biased. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 16:51:21 GMT
According to Reuters Research Institute ( most watched / listened to / read News ) 1 BBC News 50% 2 ITV News 27% 3 SKY News 15% 4 Channel 4 09% 5 Daily Mail / Mail on Sunday 09% 6 Commercial Radio News 07% 7 Local / Region Newspaper 07% 8 Metro 05% 9 GB News 05% According to BARB the British Audience Research Bureau - BBC remains the most watched TV broadcaster, consistently beats all other channels in the TV ratings, is the most watched and listened to news. I repeat what I stated - that GB News is openly Right Wing in nature, why would anyone who wishes to consume the news impartialy and objectively watch an openly biased source of news. So not the least watched if you include the whole table where Channel 5 news resides two points lower. Barb of course is not a random sample by any stretch. This is where you have to consider an objective point of view and view it not from a leftcentric attitude. Could you explain on what basis you are judging GBnews as openly RW biased. Well, Mr Pine, or can I call you "Sandy", If a new TV News channel started broadcasting, and its main commentators were Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbot and Richard Burgon, would you be slightly suspicious. ? Last night I watched the channel for a while, it was reporting on the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre, and the coverage was so slanted that it just seemed very unprofessional. The questioning by Nigel Farage was very one sided, and no counter argument. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 14, 2023 17:07:44 GMT
So not the least watched if you include the whole table where Channel 5 news resides two points lower. Barb of course is not a random sample by any stretch. This is where you have to consider an objective point of view and view it not from a leftcentric attitude. Could you explain on what basis you are judging GBnews as openly RW biased. Well, Mr Pine, or can I call you "Sandy", If a new TV News channel started broadcasting, and its main commentators were Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbot and Richard Burgon, would you be slightly suspicious. ? Last night I watched the channel for a while, it was reporting on the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre, and the coverage was so slanted that it just seemed very unprofessional. The questioning by Nigel Farage was very one sided, and no counter argument.
But the Channels you do laud have given the story no coverage at all - is that not just as biased?. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 14, 2023 17:08:51 GMT
How do you know it is the least watched? If it was the least watched then Farage would not have won anything. GB news is gaining viewers largely because people are turning away from the BBC and Sky both of whom tend to control outlook, ignore some aspects of the news and concentrate on others. People tend to notice these things and make allowances but eventually they realise they are being taken for mugs. According to Reuters Research Institute ( most watched / listened to / read News ) 1 BBC News 50% 2 ITV News 27% 3 SKY News 15% 4 Channel 4 09% 5 Daily Mail / Mail on Sunday 09% 6 Commercial Radio News 07% 7 Local / Region Newspaper 07% 8 Metro 05% 9 GB News 05% According to BARB the British Audience Research Bureau - BBC remains the most watched TV broadcaster, consistently beats all other channels in the TV ratings, is the most watched and listened to news. I repeat what I stated - that GB News is openly Right Wing in nature, why would anyone who wishes to consume the news impartialy and objectively watch an openly biased source of news. Last night I did hear the BBC report on the Tobias Elwood report. The BBC report had an interviewer who was interviewing him on it. Where a similar GB News interview would go completely unchallenged, the BBC to their credit did ask him some probing questions. What he said was the biggest load of tripe one could imagine. He had zero proof of anything concrete and just played the interview game of answering a question with an unrelated promo statement of how excellent his crew are. It's high time the public saw through such liars and stopped voting for them. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 14, 2023 17:54:23 GMT
So not the least watched if you include the whole table where Channel 5 news resides two points lower. Barb of course is not a random sample by any stretch. This is where you have to consider an objective point of view and view it not from a leftcentric attitude. Could you explain on what basis you are judging GBnews as openly RW biased. Well, Mr Pine, or can I call you "Sandy", If a new TV News channel started broadcasting, and its main commentators were Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbot and Richard Burgon, would you be slightly suspicious. ? Last night I watched the channel for a while, it was reporting on the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre, and the coverage was so slanted that it just seemed very unprofessional. The questioning by Nigel Farage was very one sided, and no counter argument. Call me what you will within the reasonable confines of good manners. I would agree on being suspicious but then I would be expected to provide examples of how that perceived bias manifested itself. Have you any? There was a council meeting covered in Braintree I believe whereby accusations were made and the Councillor refused to speak to GBnews, so a counter argument was sought but not forthcoming. As regards the Welsh hotel it is the Council that is taking action to stop its takeover as an Asylum Centre and the only other 'side' is the Home Office and the owners whose opinions were also sought. In Portland two groups were protesting the barge and both gave their opinions and were acknowledged, Portland Harbour authority I understand were approached but refused. I suppose GBNews big failure in your view was not to brand some of the protesters as far right which was Sky and ITV's position which we know is opinion and in fact is policy for both to so opine. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 15, 2023 6:03:26 GMT
The thing about BARB is that it's basically a poll - and a very small poll at that. For example it talks about a panel of "1000 carefully recruited households". As always with polls the selection of the people to be interviewed is crucial and I doubt if the figures they produce are anywhere near accurate.
The objection I have to the BBC is that its news is misleading by omission. For example, if you only listened to the BBC you would be unaware of the extent of the protests about the illegal migrants all over the country. But the presentation is also biased. For example Nick Robinson has been in many countries this week interviewing people about attitudes to migration. In one interview in Italy he said to the person he was talking to that "Georgia Melloni, of course, is regarded as far Right in Britain". That's a completely untrue. The BBC certainly regards her as far Right but that's a different thing.
And, to BvL, it's pointless starting a thread about GB News "bias" if you can't give a single example of this bias.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 8:40:15 GMT
SKY - BBC and ITN have all covered the story of the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre
But GB News has gone into over-drive on this one news story, its seems to be more important than The Inflation Crisis, the War in Ukraine or anything else because it fits the right wing agenda that GB News very clearly has.
There are dozens of hotels all across the UK been used to house asylum applicants, and there have been for several years - this is not a new news story, but GB News are playing on it, concentrating on it, pushing it.
Late last night I watched GB News again ( something I rarely do ), and on one desk was the presenter, sat next to him was a Conservative MP, on another desk on his own in the corner was a Labour Party representative (why was the studio set this way ? ) - The presenter more or less agreed with everything the Tory MP stated and disagreed with all what the Labour Party representative stated.
This would never, ever happen on SKY, the BBC or ITN, who all give the opposite or opposing arguments
Anyone who believes the utter nonsense that GB News are reporting things that our Mainstream News Providers are not reporting is living in cloud cuckoo land.
GB News is so bent that its a wonder any of the presenters can stand up straight
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Post by sandypine on Jul 15, 2023 12:02:18 GMT
SKY - BBC and ITN have all covered the story of the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre But GB News has gone into over-drive on this one news story, its seems to be more important than The Inflation Crisis, the War in Ukraine or anything else because it fits the right wing agenda that GB News very clearly has. There are dozens of hotels all across the UK been used to house asylum applicants, and there have been for several years - this is not a new news story, but GB News are playing on it, concentrating on it, pushing it. Late last night I watched GB News again ( something I rarely do ), and on one desk was the presenter, sat next to him was a Conservative MP, on another desk on his own in the corner was a Labour Party representative (why was the studio set this way ? ) - The presenter more or less agreed with everything the Tory MP stated and disagreed with all what the Labour Party representative stated. This would never, ever happen on SKY, the BBC or ITN, who all give the opposite or opposing arguments Anyone who believes the utter nonsense that GB News are reporting things that our Mainstream News Providers are not reporting is living in cloud cuckoo land. GB News is so bent that its a wonder any of the presenters can stand up straight Any idea who they all were as I tend to watch Dewbs and she has some pretty left leaning panellists that she disagrees with but they get an airing and can place their point of view. Should they not be tackled on their point of view. Is Dewbs supposed to be a chairman type person. We all remember how the 'impartial' chairman Dimbleby behaved on the Nick Griffin QT. It is programmes like those that have finally encouraged the likes of GB news to be initiated as there is not a fixed correct view, there are opinions and editorial direction and all channels have that. What is clear is that you do not like the direction of opinions in GB news, well wlecome to the unsettled club where many people have not liked the direction of opinions at the other channels. I can recall Nick Robinsons programme 'The truth about Immigration' a few years back and it was loaded propaganda on the BBC news. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2023 12:57:33 GMT
The thing about BARB is that it's basically a poll - and a very small poll at that. For example it talks about a panel of "1000 carefully recruited households". As always with polls the selection of the people to be interviewed is crucial and I doubt if the figures they produce are anywhere near accurate. The objection I have to the BBC is that its news is misleading by omission. For example, if you only listened to the BBC you would be unaware of the extent of the protests about the illegal migrants all over the country. But the presentation is also biased. For example Nick Robinson has been in many countries this week interviewing people about attitudes to migration. In one interview in Italy he said to the person he was talking to that "Georgia Melloni, of course, is regarded as far Right in Britain". That's a completely untrue. The BBC certainly regards her as far Right but that's a different thing. And, to BvL, it's pointless starting a thread about GB News "bias" if you can't give a single example of this bias. It's pointless to tell me I have not given a single example when you have not read all my posts on this thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 12:58:26 GMT
The BBC in my opinion did the correct thing in allowing Nick Griffin to spout his verbal diarrohoea on Question Time, because the oxygen of publicity did the BNP a lot of harm, and soon after that the BNP virtually dissapeared.
PROPER perspective cannot ever be seen or understood without the other side of any argument or a non-opinionated explanation of a situation.
I have heard many times that BBC Question Time is biased to the Left, biased to the Right, pro European, anti European, and to this day I can honestly say that I have never seen any bias at all. The panel is always evenly balanced, I have absolutely no idea what the political opinions may be of Fiona Bruce.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 15, 2023 13:09:30 GMT
SKY - BBC and ITN have all covered the story of the Welsh hotel to be used as an Asylum Centre But GB News has gone into over-drive on this one news story, its seems to be more important than The Inflation Crisis, the War in Ukraine or anything else because it fits the right wing agenda that GB News very clearly has. There are dozens of hotels all across the UK been used to house asylum applicants, and there have been for several years - this is not a new news story, but GB News are playing on it, concentrating on it, pushing it. Late last night I watched GB News again ( something I rarely do ), and on one desk was the presenter, sat next to him was a Conservative MP, on another desk on his own in the corner was a Labour Party representative (why was the studio set this way ? ) - The presenter more or less agreed with everything the Tory MP stated and disagreed with all what the Labour Party representative stated. This would never, ever happen on SKY, the BBC or ITN, who all give the opposite or opposing arguments Anyone who believes the utter nonsense that GB News are reporting things that our Mainstream News Providers are not reporting is living in cloud cuckoo land. GB News is so bent that its a wonder any of the presenters can stand up straight I've seen it on occasions with both the BBC and Channel 4. It tends to happen with the BBC when you have a US military spokesman, e.g. when they bang on about China and ditto for Russia. BBC rarely argue with this sort, and I've seen Channel 4 do a hit job and apply extreme bias as well.
I'm largely in agreement with you though regarding what you say about GB News. Rather than this happen on occasions, it is the business plan of the organisation and likely the reason it exists given it runs at a big financial loss. Of course if Ofcom did cut it down to size they won't half squeal about it, but the audience are such cult members they would never accept their cult being exposed. It reminds me of the time the BBC exposed a Japanese cult operating in Britain. Someone I knew was mixed up with it and I was invited on a tour. The lady said the BBC report was completely biased! The cult carried on as if nothing had been unearthed!
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 17, 2023 7:11:36 GMT
The BBC in my opinion did the correct thing in allowing Nick Griffin to spout his verbal diarrohoea on Question Time, because the oxygen of publicity did the BNP a lot of harm, and soon after that the BNP virtually dissapeared. The QT that Nick Griffin was on was a disgraceful lynch mob. All the panellists, including Dimbleby - the supposedly unbiased chairman - attacked Griffin at every opportunity and the audience was stuffed with Lefties and blacks. don't know how the BBC get away with this kind of thing. QT has always been biased but that was the worst example I've ever seen. The audience is always full of Lefties and the panelists are selected to represent the Left. They do now try to give a veneer of balance by evening out the numbers of "left" and "right" but it's noticeable that the Lefties are usually motormouths with hardline views while the others are usually conciliatory (or feeble). And they tend to get cut off pretty quickly if they start saying things that the chairperson doesn't agree with. It's exactly the same as "Politics Live". Jo Coburn is a lifelong Labour supporter and gives the likes of Alistair Campbell free rein while cutting off the others. They do now have reasonable panelists on - like Claire Fox, who usually has interesting points to make - but she hardly manages to get a word in. It's just another BBC political program that is not worth watching. |
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