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Post by wapentake on Jul 16, 2023 22:37:20 GMT
So you agreed with Dodgy Dave but didn’t read his posts properly either. Where did I get it from? His post where he said if they lose charitable status they’ll scrap scholarships diverting tens of thousands that get it free to the state sector( it’s only 6000 in reality ) and will then lower the fees to the paying customers. Don't be questioning my maths check his he’s the one who posted it. You appear to have not understood the my original post... there was two points in the original sentence, not one lol. I said they will scrap free places to drive down costs... which will effect working class kids... that is one issue. Then I said tens of thousands will flood into the state section, which was an obvious reference to the reported consequences (by the media) of Starmer's plans... that is a separate issue. Lastly, you seem to be having a hard time with my other point. Starmer's plan is purely ideological, and will do more harm than good. Do you disagree with me that a better route would be to tell the public that we simply aren't paying enough taxes to have excellent education and public service, instead of this populist tripe? Lol backtracking you should read your posts before posting. And you don’t get (still) I don’t support Starmer,repeat it is the charity scam I’m against but guess I am wasting my time. Your post reads as I said,if that’s not what you meant fine it’s not a capital offence we all make mistakes I know I do and am happy to admit when I’m wrong. |
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 16, 2023 23:53:48 GMT
You appear to have not understood the my original post... there was two points in the original sentence, not one lol. I said they will scrap free places to drive down costs... which will effect working class kids... that is one issue. Then I said tens of thousands will flood into the state section, which was an obvious reference to the reported consequences (by the media) of Starmer's plans... that is a separate issue. Lastly, you seem to be having a hard time with my other point. Starmer's plan is purely ideological, and will do more harm than good. Do you disagree with me that a better route would be to tell the public that we simply aren't paying enough taxes to have excellent education and public service, instead of this populist tripe? Lol backtracking you should read your posts before posting. And you don’t get (still) I don’t support Starmer,repeat it is the charity scam I’m against but guess I am wasting my time. Your post reads as I said,if that’s not what you meant fine it’s not a capital offence we all make mistakes I know I do and am happy to admit when I’m wrong. I clarify the points for you... because you obvious misunderstood them... even though other people got them... then you don't have the grace to accept that and instead accuse me of backtracking lol. Did it never occur to you that if a point seems stupid, it might just be because you misunderstood it? Then straight after, you again misread my other point... your point is your point, nowhere did I say it is not your point, why the fuck would I??? Not everything is about you, I am pointing out Starmer's motivation ie it has nothing to do with equality... it is just a populistic "rich people = bad" policy that will do absolutely nothing to increase the standards in state schools. I am not saying that is your opinion. I was asking for YOUR opinion on Starmer's policy, and YOUR opinion on how we are ever going to improve education when we have such a low tax burden. |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 17, 2023 0:04:01 GMT
Lol backtracking you should read your posts before posting. And you don’t get (still) I don’t support Starmer,repeat it is the charity scam I’m against but guess I am wasting my time. Your post reads as I said,if that’s not what you meant fine it’s not a capital offence we all make mistakes I know I do and am happy to admit when I’m wrong. I clarify the points for you... because you obvious misunderstood them... even though other people got them... then you don't have the grace to accept that and instead accuse me of backtracking lol. Did it never occur to you that if a point seems stupid, it might just be because you misunderstood it? Then straight after, you again misread my other point... your point is your point, nowhere did I say it is not your point, why the fuck would I??? Not everything is about you, I am pointing out Starmer's motivation ie it has nothing to do with equality... it is just a populistic "rich people = bad" policy that will do absolutely nothing to increase the standards in state schools. I am not saying that is your opinion. I was asking for YOUR opinion on Starmer's policy, and YOUR opinion on how we are ever going to improve education when we have such a low tax burden. I never said it was all about me,I’m not getting in to an argument you clearly have problems understanding you can’t even read the mind zone rules and understand them with you effing about this ot that. Best left there. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 17, 2023 7:45:54 GMT
Cant do costings on the many fees charged. Any VAT paid to the school can be written off as a cost/deduction in parents' income tax declarations. ------------------- Eh? Vat is a deductible cost on a personal income tax return? Since when? I need to tell my accountant about this unexpected bonus It was a suggestion, a way to conform more closely yo the mechanics of VAT across business. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 17, 2023 8:10:50 GMT
One of the most common reasons why parents choosse fee paying schools is the better chances that their children will reach whatever potential they have.
There is a far better chance that a child who finds (for example) an element of trig which underpins further maths progress, difficult, it is a better bet that s/he will get more help in a smaller class or one to one time with a teacher simply because teachers are under less pressure of a large class, so can give more individual attention.
And parents are fed up with the challenging behaviour many children exhibit in state schools which distracts those who want to make progress.
There is more opportunity for the "dark side" ie drugs in state school.
And parents want their children to learn manners, how to find information and use it creatively. How to see opportunity and take it.
If the children of parents with high expectations demand these assets in state schools, which would also be able to employ the better teachers, the standard of education across the whole sector will go up. A rising tide lifts all boats.
OTOH there is I think a role for separate education for those children who have both special needs or special talents such as music or sports which can be nurtured better in a place with more time to give.
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