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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 8:32:23 GMT
I would imagine the Remainers are very small today, but they're a lot like the far-left activists in this country. Very loud, always seeking attention, but totally unelectable. Hardly worth the distraction - it's the same old same old. You have a vivid imagination. Have you considered posting on the writing thread? Meanwhile the polls tell a more accurate story. How sweet of you to offer.
I don't know why you're repeating the same thing. I am only going to give the same response:
" German car companies?
Regarding immigration, it's usually the open borders types who use this argument against Brexit as a form of mockery. Cutting immigration was down to the Conservative party, and sure, they've not done a very good job of it so far. However, the British government now have the choice to control immigration, and that's something the people have to pressure it to do. Remainism is the worst argument for controlled immigration.
The polls you seem to be relying on aren't actually telling any truths. Many come from partisan sources full of leading questions, which is why they were pro-EU before the referendum."
If your polls were accurate we wouldn't have left the EU.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 29, 2022 9:20:46 GMT
The economy argument was used by remainers as 'project fear' to depict the demise of the UK economy solely on the basis for leaving the EU. Now, if people want to believe the EUvangelist's latest claims that Britain would benefit more than disadvantage itself by rejoining the EU amid global economic issues then more fool them. Seems project fear was on the right track, the UK economy is crap, the promised trade deals haven't happened, the pound worth f'all. Seems the EU weren't holding us back after all. And all those EU bureaucratic regulations that were costing British businesses millions? They're all still there with a pile of new ones on top. No wonder folks have lost faith. As you you Brexiters soo like to say. FFS get over it. Your project has failed, it didn't work, its defunct. Now a very large majority of British citizens want to end it and re-join the EU. 'Project fear' was on the right track. Ha. I do not remember them telling us a global pandemic was around the corner - do you think that pandemic happened because of Brexit? I don't remember project fear telling us Putin would invade Ukraine. Our project hasn't even started, it's in its infancy. It will take time especially with a global pandemic and a European war on our doorstep, thanks in no small part to EU expansionism. Give global Britain the same amount of time it was a member of the EU before writing it off as defunct by that time you may have a point. And I've seen nowhere whatsoever that demonstrates Briton's want to adopt the Euro currency and be a part of Schengen along with all the EU's other pitfalls. You're in la la land if you believe that will ever happen. Dream on. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 29, 2022 10:59:32 GMT
If rejoining were as popular as you suggest then one of the major parties would be advocating that. However it seems that they are as suspicious of the accuracy of these polls (perhaps after getting bitten last time  ) as I am. Of course you are, its your worst nightmare. But every poll, every year the gap gets bigger. I wont be ignored for much longer. I think Labour will take us back in without a referendum, but simply by closer ties, matching regulations and trade deals. Everything bar FoM.
Which is what we could have had without all the pain of Brexit. Oh look - more fake news.. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2022 14:40:39 GMT
Seems project fear was on the right track, the UK economy is crap, the promised trade deals haven't happened, the pound worth f'all. Seems the EU weren't holding us back after all. And all those EU bureaucratic regulations that were costing British businesses millions? They're all still there with a pile of new ones on top. No wonder folks have lost faith. As you you Brexiters soo like to say. FFS get over it. Your project has failed, it didn't work, its defunct. Now a very large majority of British citizens want to end it and re-join the EU. 'Project fear' was on the right track. Ha. I do not remember them telling us a global pandemic was around the corner - do you think that pandemic happened because of Brexit? I don't remember project fear telling us Putin would invade Ukraine. Our project hasn't even started, it's in its infancy. It will take time especially with a global pandemic and a European war on our doorstep, thanks in no small part to EU expansionism. Give global Britain the same amount of time it was a member of the EU before writing it off as defunct by that time you may have a point. And I've seen nowhere whatsoever that demonstrates Briton's want to adopt the Euro currency and be a part of Schengen along with all the EU's other pitfalls. You're in la la land if you believe that will ever happen. Dream on. Covid affected all countries but isn't it interesting how of developed nations only the UK is struggling to recover its exports post Covid obr.uk/box/the-latest-evidence-on-the-impact-of-brexit-on-uk-trade/  Even arch Brexiter Lord Frost is admitting Brexit is a 5% problem for the economy (the 2016 predicted figure leavers dismissed as project fear) but says it's supposedly worth it for the freedoms - well when you have to be a slave to the debt market those 'freedoms' are illusory too. So we may not be able to go back in but we can certainly make sure the guilty are held accountable. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 16:33:50 GMT
...I wonder if people have considered what would have happened during the Covid pandemic if we'd been EU members. Would we have been allowed to do furlough in the way we did? Almost certainly not. The EU has strict rules about what amounts to subsidising business. And would we have had the vaccines in the quantities and at the time we got them. Again, certainly not. People love to hate Boris but there's no doubt that his vaccine procurement and vaccination itself were exceptionally well executed. It saved a lot of lives. Correct me if I'm wrong but Germany, etc. had their own respective furlough schemes and they implemented them during the pandemic. EU rules on state subsidy are about preventing EU states from subsidising businesses in order for them to reduce production costs and so make them more competitive -- unfairly competitive in the EU's view, apparently. The rules on state subsidy are not about job retention with the ultimate target of extending financial aid to workers. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 29, 2022 16:44:14 GMT
As no electable British Party is advocating us rejoining, I suggest you get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 16:55:58 GMT
As no electable British Party is advocating us rejoining, I suggest you get over it. I understand the mere mention of the word "rejoining" kills you. Or makes you spill your tea. Or makes you break things. But still, I suggest you make yourself current and relevant and join in the discussion. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 29, 2022 17:08:00 GMT
Nah, it doesn't kill me, it just makes me laugh at you.
Our democratic vote has ruined your little life, hasn't it ?
Fragile, aintcha ?
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Post by sheepy on Oct 29, 2022 17:13:05 GMT
As no electable British Party is advocating us rejoining, I suggest you get over it. I understand the mere mention of the word "rejoining" kills you. Or makes you spill your tea. Or makes you break things. But still, I suggest you make yourself current and relevant and join in the discussion. Amusing, just like when you lost the vote you got behind democracy, oh but wait. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 17:17:12 GMT
Nah, it doesn't kill me, it just makes me laugh at you. Our democratic vote has ruined your little life, hasn't it ? Fragile, aintcha ? Of course, it does! Your bitterness "shines though" your words. You're so bitter you don't want anyone talking about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 17:19:51 GMT
I understand the mere mention of the word "rejoining" kills you. Or makes you spill your tea. Or makes you break things. But still, I suggest you make yourself current and relevant and join in the discussion. Amusing, just like when you lost the vote you got behind democracy, oh but wait. Rubber Band is that you?!!!  |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 29, 2022 17:24:57 GMT
Amusing, just like when you lost the vote you got behind democracy, oh but wait. Rubber Band is that you?!!! exactly, no answer. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 29, 2022 17:43:16 GMT
Hiya Sheepy, I remember you from the Democracy Forum, how's it going ?
Going back a lot of years, certain arguments we had about the Middle East issues, you were right about Netanyahu, I owe you an apology.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 29, 2022 17:47:29 GMT
Hiya Sheepy, I remember you from the Democracy Forum, how's it going ? Going back a lot of years, certain arguments we had about the Middle East issues, you were right about Netanyahu, I owe you an apology. And laser weapons, just the way the cookie crumbles Vinny. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 29, 2022 17:49:16 GMT
You're alright Sheepy.
Respect.
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) as I am.
