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Post by jonksy on Oct 28, 2022 10:48:42 GMT
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Post by Steve on Oct 28, 2022 10:51:32 GMT
I'd argue for longer but 34 years is a start
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Post by Handyman on Oct 28, 2022 10:57:46 GMT
I agree
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Post by jonksy on Oct 28, 2022 11:13:11 GMT
I'd argue for longer but 34 years is a start That is why I stated "at least" Iife should mean life and no parol. |
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Post by Morgan on Oct 28, 2022 13:43:17 GMT
I'm all for whole of life sentences (And even execution in some cases.) but I thought the idea of televising the sentencing was a bit ghoulish. Somewhat like public executions I thought.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 28, 2022 15:38:24 GMT
I'm all for whole of life sentences (And even execution in some cases.) but I thought the idea of televising the sentencing was a bit ghoulish. Somewhat like public executions I thought. My feelings exactly. We have far too much trial by media these days. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 28, 2022 21:36:32 GMT
I'm all for whole of life sentences (And even execution in some cases.) but I thought the idea of televising the sentencing was a bit ghoulish. Somewhat like public executions I thought. No blood spilt so IMHO a good move. Sentences should (amongst other things) be able deterring others from offending so this level of coverage could be good |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 29, 2022 0:56:38 GMT
I would rather we had chopped her head off and shoved her in a suitcase.
Anybody that says capital punishment is wrong, but then argues for life imprisonment, over releasing on license is talking shit.
You cannot have life imprisonment; it is basic maths.
600 murders per year, with the average perpetrator being 30 years old, so that's 50 years jail time.
So you would have 30,000 convicted murderers in prison, at a cost of TWO BILLION PER YEAR!! That's before you build, and staff, the extra prisons needed to house them!
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Post by jonksy on Oct 29, 2022 1:01:51 GMT
I would rather we had chopped her head off and shoved her in a suitcase. Anybody that says capital punishment is wrong, but then argues for life imprisonment, over releasing on license is talking shit. You cannot have life imprisonment; it is basic maths. 600 murders per year, with the average perpetrator being 30 years old, so that's 50 years jail time. So you would have 30,000 convicted murderers in prison, at a cost of TWO BILLION PER YEAR!! That's before you build, and staff, the extra prisons needed to house them!And another plus is they never ever reoffend. |
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Post by Morgan on Oct 29, 2022 6:15:06 GMT
I think capital punishment should be an option available to judges but only in cases where there can be no possible doubt of the guilt of the accused.
For instance the Moors murderers and the Yorkshire ripper.
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2022 11:38:11 GMT
I think capital punishment should be an option available to judges but only in cases where there can be no possible doubt of the guilt of the accused. For instance the Moors murderers and the Yorkshire ripper. There never is 'no doubt' And as Enoch Powell pointed out, you have the death penalty you get lower conviction rates of murderer who are then free to kill again. It's not just immoral, it's counter productive. Full life tariffs are the way. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 29, 2022 11:39:12 GMT
I think capital punishment should be an option available to judges. I struggle with the concept of anyone having the right to judge me, let alone giving others the right to murder me. Each to their own I guess. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 29, 2022 17:59:53 GMT
I think capital punishment should be an option available to judges but only in cases where there can be no possible doubt of the guilt of the accused. For instance the Moors murderers and the Yorkshire ripper. There never is 'no doubt' And as Enoch Powell pointed out, you have the death penalty you get lower conviction rates of murderer who are then free to kill again. It's not just immoral, it's counter productive. Full life tariffs are the way.Whitch costs the tax payers billions. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 29, 2022 18:20:05 GMT
There never is 'no doubt' And as Enoch Powell pointed out, you have the death penalty you get lower conviction rates of murderer who are then free to kill again. It's not just immoral, it's counter productive. Full life tariffs are the way.Whitch costs the tax payers billions. How many people are in prison on whole life tariffs and what is the weighted average cost per head per annum to keep them incarcerated? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 29, 2022 18:29:34 GMT
Whitch costs the tax payers billions. How many people are in prison on whole life tariffs and what is the weighted average cost per head per annum to keep them incarcerated? you are missing the point, why should UK tax payers fund murderers and keep a roof over their head and food on the table.
the key word is 'criminals', we are the only country that mollycoddles wrong doers, the victims of their crimes get no help from the tax payers, they just have to get on with it, parents of Sarah Payne, Holly Wells, Jessica Chapman, James Bulger.
We the tax payers fund the perpetrators of these victims and pay for these MONSTERS to 'live', while they have denied these children of their lives, to become parents, and denied their own parents of being grandparents, and left their families broken with a life sentence of purgatory 'forever'.
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