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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 15, 2023 11:33:52 GMT
Leaning to the right wont stop migrants. They dont understand our political context. And in the end, right wing policies will result in aggression, violence and a police state reinforcing government policy. Knocks on the door at night, people hauled away and disappearing, reports to the police that a migrant lives down the road (true or false),, reinforced ghettos and the breakdown of the historical culture we take for granted and identify with. Climate change will ensure that this will happen. The world has to prepare NOW for the large number of those in the Southern hemisphere and low lying areas move north. One suggestion might be filling the enormous spaces in the Russian steppes. There should be agreements about which countries have the space to accommodate the migrants. NIMBY will not solve the problem. It hasn't gone unnoticed that the right, not just the far-right have had their freedom of speech stifled, while the left far-left can basically say and do whatever they like without fear of repercussions.
That tide is changing, there is only so long you can gag people before it explodes, up until now if you dare to oppose illegal migrants you have been accused of being a far-right racist, the tide is turning because now the loony left are having them dumped on their doorsteps, it's only since the lefties have kicked off about illegal migrants that it looks like something is going to be done about, we dare not accuse the left who are opposing asylum accommodation in their area as being far-left racist .... LOL
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 15, 2023 11:53:25 GMT
Everybody opposes illegal migration, however the discussion points are regarding asylum seeking. Unfortunately you keep conflating the two.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 15, 2023 12:01:05 GMT
Everybody opposes illegal migration, however the discussion points are regarding asylum seeking. Unfortunately you keep conflating the two. Two?
I think you will find you can count on one hand how many 'legal' asylum seekers are entering the UK, unless you are getting them mixed up with economic migrants or foreign students.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 15, 2023 12:12:14 GMT
I'm not sure where you're getting your figures from?
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 15, 2023 13:59:07 GMT
Leaning to the right wont stop migrants. They dont understand our political context. And in the end, right wing policies will result in aggression, violence and a police state reinforcing government policy. Knocks on the door at night, people hauled away and disappearing, reports to the police that a migrant lives down the road (true or false),, reinforced ghettos and the breakdown of the historical culture we take for granted and identify with. Climate change will ensure that this will happen. The world has to prepare NOW for the large number of those in the Southern hemisphere and low lying areas move north. One suggestion might be filling the enormous spaces in the Russian steppes. There should be agreements about which countries have the space to accommodate the migrants. NIMBY will not solve the problem. They will soon get the message when they wake up back in Africa or the middle east |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 15, 2023 14:25:22 GMT
Leaning to the right wont stop migrants. They dont understand our political context. And in the end, right wing policies will result in aggression, violence and a police state reinforcing government policy. Knocks on the door at night, people hauled away and disappearing, reports to the police that a migrant lives down the road (true or false),, reinforced ghettos and the breakdown of the historical culture we take for granted and identify with. Climate change will ensure that this will happen. The world has to prepare NOW for the large number of those in the Southern hemisphere and low lying areas move north. One suggestion might be filling the enormous spaces in the Russian steppes. There should be agreements about which countries have the space to accommodate the migrants. NIMBY will not solve the problem. What illegals may or may not understand is a complete irrelevance. What will result in aggression and violence is the majority being ignored, and believe me, the majority in this country are being ignored. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 15:31:06 GMT
Everybody opposes illegal migration, however the discussion points are regarding asylum seeking. Unfortunately you keep conflating the two. Perhaps you could provide a Venn diagram, to help us understand. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 15, 2023 21:22:57 GMT
Leaning to the right wont stop migrants. They dont understand our political context. And in the end, right wing policies will result in aggression, violence and a police state reinforcing government policy. Knocks on the door at night, people hauled away and disappearing, reports to the police that a migrant lives down the road (true or false),, reinforced ghettos and the breakdown of the historical culture we take for granted and identify with. Climate change will ensure that this will happen. The world has to prepare NOW for the large number of those in the Southern hemisphere and low lying areas move north. One suggestion might be filling the enormous spaces in the Russian steppes. There should be agreements about which countries have the space to accommodate the migrants. NIMBY will not solve the problem. They will soon get the message when they wake up back in Africa or the middle east Refoulement is internationally illegal. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 15, 2023 21:26:40 GMT
Leaning to the right wont stop migrants. They dont understand our political context. And in the end, right wing policies will result in aggression, violence and a police state reinforcing government policy. Knocks on the door at night, people hauled away and disappearing, reports to the police that a migrant lives down the road (true or false),, reinforced ghettos and the breakdown of the historical culture we take for granted and identify with. Climate change will ensure that this will happen. The world has to prepare NOW for the large number of those in the Southern hemisphere and low lying areas move north. One suggestion might be filling the enormous spaces in the Russian steppes. There should be agreements about which countries have the space to accommodate the migrants. NIMBY will not solve the problem. What illegals may or may not understand is a complete irrelevance. What will result in aggression and violence is the majority being ignored, and believe me, the majority in this country are being ignored. They are not being ignored. Ms. Patel and Braverman would deny your claim. The truth is, there is no solution. And with climate change, there will be more of a problem. Happily i will be resting quietly in my own piece of ground. It isnt my problem. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 15, 2023 21:28:40 GMT
They will soon get the message when they wake up back in Africa or the middle east Refoulement is internationally illegal. What persecution would a guy from Albania or India get in Rwanda? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 15, 2023 23:53:00 GMT
Everybody opposes illegal migration, however the discussion points are regarding asylum seeking. Unfortunately you keep conflating the two. Perhaps you could provide a Venn diagram, to help us understand. You're more than welcome to look up the differences, but I'm sure you're more than well aware and don't require a Venn diagram. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 16, 2023 14:47:42 GMT
They will soon get the message when they wake up back in Africa or the middle east Refoulement is internationally illegal. Thats providing the country they are being sent is liable to persecute them . Coming from a shit hole doesn't count |
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 16, 2023 14:52:53 GMT
Refoulement is internationally illegal. What persecution would a guy from Albania or India get in Rwanda? Rwanda is reserved for Asylum seekers , Indians and Albanians are just economic migrants and should be repatriated to their own countries |
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