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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2023 8:16:06 GMT
Jesus Christ, Multi-billion pound corporations being run by a bunch of ideological zealots who collect their views on customers from dodgy websites run by bitter remainers, and left-leaning fruit cakes. Anyone who tells me society is better today than it was even 30 - 40 years ago can go take a run and jump. We're fast heading towards North Korea on the back of the opinions of social misfits. It's all part of the establishments divide and conquer agenda. A divided society is easier to control. It's why they pretend such interest in minorities: Split society into smaller groups, set the groups against each other by appearing to give special treatment to one over the other, cancel anyone who rumbles the plot and job done. And the useful idiots still think that it's going to come out in their favour. And you can actually watch it happening. It's auto delusion writ large.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 28, 2023 8:17:05 GMT
why? - we do for energy and water supplies But we don't for cars and the internet. Cars and internet are not essential. Banking is. We live in a money system.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 28, 2023 8:21:10 GMT
If a bakery refused to sell any food to gay people, if it refused bread, if it refused as much as a gingerbread man that would be an outrage. Forcing them to bake a product they disagree with baking is also an outrage.
Now, banking. If Nigel had asked for a service the Bank doesn't provide to anyone, that would be unreasonable of him.
But he didn't, so it's been unreasonable of the banks.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 28, 2023 8:31:20 GMT
Meh. Mr deregulation is reduced to screaming for more regulation of the banks and using EU legislation to support his case because suddenly he's the victim when the Queen's own bank thinks he's so toxic it damages their reputation to have him in their millionaire's club which it turns out he doesn't have enough cash in his account to belong to anyway. Plus the bonus of banks shares falling across the board because Brexit moved the centre of European banking from London to Frankfurt. What's not to like? More bank regulation, bring it on. Hobo Nige described as a racist, xenophobic, grifter. Fucking hilarious. It's the most fun I've had on here in months. Much more fun than the usual whiny ''victims'' bitching and moaning about the moderation because they've had a couple of posts deleted for calling fellow members supporters of paedophiles. Monte. The foundations that society is built upon such as freedom of speech , and democracy , is far more important than personal dislike of an individual , or puerile excuses over alleged hypocrisy.
This is wrong. We all know it. You and others on this thread such as darling and Zany are on the wrong side of societys moral standards once more , as i said about remainers post 2016. Public opinion is against you.
Let it go mate , and dont continue to die on that hill.
Heres the scottish indy blogger , former lib dem , pro european and critic of transgender issues Stuart campbell telliing talk tv of his personal "banking cancellation" similar to Farage. If you cant hold your nose about Farage , and see why this is wrong and we must all close ranks in society and get behind the banks being punished and reigned in over this , then i would have thought better of you.
So, he was presumably de-banked for transgender-critical views. There was more sanity found in Bedlam.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 28, 2023 8:44:28 GMT
But we don't for cars and the internet. Cars and internet are not essential. Banking is. We live in a money system. Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 28, 2023 8:51:23 GMT
Cars and internet are not essential. Banking is. We live in a money system. Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself. Stop lying. He was de-banked first. Went public second and was offered the NatWest account third - in a damage limitation exercise.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2023 9:03:46 GMT
Cars and internet are not essential. Banking is. We live in a money system. Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself. No, as before, his business accounts were shut down and he was offered a basic personal account instead. Not the same thing.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 28, 2023 9:07:33 GMT
Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself. Stop lying. He was de-banked first. Went public second and was offered the NatWest account third - in a damage limitation exercise. No. This is the correct sequence: Farage told lies about the EU, acted as a Putin enabler, and generally acquired a reputation for himself as a 'xenophobe' and a 'disingenuous grifter'. Then, the bank decided to jettison him because they took the decision, correctly or incorrectly, that he was a reputational burden for them.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 28, 2023 9:07:45 GMT
Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself. Stop lying. He was de-banked first. Went public second and was offered the NatWest account third - in a damage limitation exercise. Exactly, this millionaires thing was a lie, the internal 40 page bank memo was about him and his views. Not about the money he had and other banks refused accounts as well.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 28, 2023 9:07:58 GMT
Is it essential to have a millionaire's bank account or would life be possible with a mere pleb account like the one Farage turned down in his haste to go public with his sob story? I keep hearing about how it is so abhorrent that Farage was debanked but he effectively debanked himself. No, as before, his business accounts were shut down and he was offered a basic personal account instead. Not the same thing. So, he wasn't debanked, then.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 28, 2023 9:09:26 GMT
And now Gina Miller has been de banked by Monzo as well. If that decision was also political, that too is wrong.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 28, 2023 9:11:10 GMT
Stop lying. He was de-banked first. Went public second and was offered the NatWest account third - in a damage limitation exercise. Exactly, this millionaires thing was a lie, the internal 40 page bank memo was about him and his views. Not about the money he had and other banks refused accounts as well. The 40 page bank statement discussed the reputational risk he posed to the bank. Clearly, there was some substance to it, as the manfrog wasn't able to find another bank to take him on.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 28, 2023 9:14:12 GMT
And now Gina Miller has been de banked by Monzo as well. If that decision was also political, that too is wrong. Surely, someone isn't debanked if their regular bank exercises a term of their contract to terminate. Wouldn't every bank have to have refused her custom before she could be said to have been debanked?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 28, 2023 9:15:27 GMT
Meh. Mr deregulation is reduced to screaming for more regulation of the banks and using EU legislation to support his case because suddenly he's the victim when the Queen's own bank thinks he's so toxic it damages their reputation to have him in their millionaire's club which it turns out he doesn't have enough cash in his account to belong to anyway. Plus the bonus of banks shares falling across the board because Brexit moved the centre of European banking from London to Frankfurt. What's not to like? More bank regulation, bring it on. Hobo Nige described as a racist, xenophobic, grifter. Fucking hilarious. It's the most fun I've had on here in months. Much more fun than the usual whiny ''victims'' bitching and moaning about the moderation because they've had a couple of posts deleted for calling fellow members supporters of paedophiles. Monte. The foundations that society is built upon such as freedom of speech , and democracy , is far more important than personal dislike of an individual , or puerile excuses over alleged hypocrisy.
This is wrong. We all know it. You and others on this thread such as darling and Zany are on the wrong side of societys moral standards once more , as i said about remainers post 2016. Public opinion is against you.
Let it go mate , and dont continue to die on that hill.
Heres the scottish indy blogger , former lib dem , pro european and critic of transgender issues Stuart campbell telliing talk tv of his personal "banking cancellation" similar to Farage. If you cant hold your nose about Farage , and see why this is wrong and we must all close ranks in society and get behind the banks being punished and reigned in over this , then i would have thought better of you.
Thomas, I thought we were friends. That you would deny me the pleasure of a bit of Farage bashing hurts. However, back to the point. NatWest didn't debank Manfrog they downgraded him. He debanked himself when he turned down the standard non-millionaire's club account that all of us plebs are reduced to using. Do you think the Queen's bank would give you or I an account in their over privileged self entitled banking clique? Does that make us debanked and if so where do I claim my compensation? But even that is beside the point. Should a company be forced to allow a customer service when they think it is causing them reputational damage? Should I be forced to allow an abusive customer, who is scaring away my other customers, into my fancy restaurant? ''But he's hungry and everyone needs to eat'' you say. ''Fine, he can eat at my other restaurant which is a fast food joint'' I respond. ''Oh wait, he's stormed off in a huff. Couldn't have been that hungry after all''. ''Must have just been making some kind of point so he could make himself look victimised and it wasn't about the right to be fed after all. Well fuck him then''.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 28, 2023 9:21:18 GMT
Stop lying. He was de-banked first. Went public second and was offered the NatWest account third - in a damage limitation exercise. No. This is the correct sequence: Farage told lies about the EU, acted as a Putin enabler, and generally acquired a reputation for himself as a 'xenophobe' and a 'disingenuous grifter'. Then, the bank decided to jettison him because they took the decision, correctly or incorrectly, that he was a reputational burden for them. As usual, you're left with irrelevant pivots.
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