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Post by jonksy on Jun 23, 2023 1:37:29 GMT
The prick is not only a kneeling disgrace, he is an absolute danger to the UK.......Does anyone apart from idiots believe anything that comes out of this clowns face.
After vowing to axe the Lords Smarmer has hinted he could make former Labour PMs Tony Blair and Gordon Brown peers Smarmer said 'of course' he wants to look into making the Labour grandees peers It comes after he promised to abolish the House of Lords when in government
Smarmer has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government.
The leader was criticised this week after senior party figures confirmed plans to pack the Lords so they outnumber the Tories in the upper chamber in the event Labour win at the next general election.
This was despite a promise to abolish the Lords when in government.
Starmer (pictured) has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the
House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government
Yesterday smarmer said he 'of course' wants to talk to Labour grandees – including the two former prime ministers – about becoming peers.
But a Tory spokesman said: 'Labour's dodgy dealings know no limits. After denying an honours list, Slippery Smarmer is plotting to stuff the Lords full of his cronies, including Tony "open borders" mass murdering prick Blair and Gordon "sold the gold" Brown.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2023 2:26:13 GMT
He has backtracked on abolishing the lords, he now says he will elevate dozens of 'young people' to the lords. He is actually admitting before he even gets into office that he will do exactly what he has always said he will not do, he will fill the lords with people who support him. Just as all previous prime ministers have. Starmer is a hypocritical failure before he even gets the keys to number 10.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 23, 2023 4:48:10 GMT
He has backtracked on abolishing the lords, he now says he will elevate dozens of 'young people' to the lords. He is actually admitting before he even gets into office that he will do exactly what he has always said he will not do, he will fill the lords with people who support him. Just as all previous prime ministers have. Starmer is a hypocritical failure before he even gets the keys to number 10. His word is as much use as a frigging chocolate teapot mate. He and all the other labour parasites shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the HOC or HOL let alone infest them.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2023 4:56:42 GMT
He has backtracked on abolishing the lords, he now says he will elevate dozens of 'young people' to the lords. He is actually admitting before he even gets into office that he will do exactly what he has always said he will not do, he will fill the lords with people who support him. Just as all previous prime ministers have. Starmer is a hypocritical failure before he even gets the keys to number 10. His word is as much use as a frigging chocolate teapot mate. He and all the other labour parasites shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the HOC or HOL let alone infest them. Well yes, but the sad fact is Jonksy he will in all likelihood be the next prime minister. Probably with a minority government but prime minister all the same. Prime minister Starmer! We're in mad times.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 23, 2023 5:24:44 GMT
His word is as much use as a frigging chocolate teapot mate. He and all the other labour parasites shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the HOC or HOL let alone infest them. Well yes, but the sad fact is Jonksy he will in all likelihood be the next prime minister. Probably with a minority government but prime minister all the same. Prime minister Starmer! We're in mad times. And deputy PM Rayner, FFS. Abbot doing the accounts Corbyn leading from the back as top adviser on Racial tension, Dodds as home secratary etc etc And a mass murdering arshole in the lords...Aint life grand? If you are total brain devoid prick that is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 6:00:43 GMT
The prick is not only a kneeling disgrace, he is an absolute danger to the UK.......Does anyone apart from idiots believe anything that comes out of this clowns face.
After vowing to axe the Lords Smarmer has hinted he could make former Labour PMs Tony Blair and Gordon Brown peers Smarmer said 'of course' he wants to look into making the Labour grandees peers It comes after he promised to abolish the House of Lords when in government
Smarmer has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government.
The leader was criticised this week after senior party figures confirmed plans to pack the Lords so they outnumber the Tories in the upper chamber in the event Labour win at the next general election.
This was despite a promise to abolish the Lords when in government.
Starmer (pictured) has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the
House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government
Yesterday smarmer said he 'of course' wants to talk to Labour grandees – including the two former prime ministers – about becoming peers.
But a Tory spokesman said: 'Labour's dodgy dealings know no limits. After denying an honours list, Slippery Smarmer is plotting to stuff the Lords full of his cronies, including Tony "open borders" mass murdering prick Blair and Gordon "sold the gold" Brown.
Appointing Labour peers is par for the course for Labour PSs if he achieves that position. The Tories have packed the Lords with Tory peers for over a decade and the balance needs addressing. As to your point about Starmer wanting to abolish or reform the HoLs this in not mutually exclusive to elevating labour peers. You really have picked a none story here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 6:09:08 GMT
Well yes, but the sad fact is Jonksy he will in all likelihood be the next prime minister. Probably with a minority government but prime minister all the same. Prime minister Starmer! We're in mad times. And deputy PM Rayner, FFS. Abbot doing the accounts Corbyn leading from the back as top adviser on Racial tension, Dodds as home secratary etc etc And a mass murdering arshole in the lords...Aint life grand? If you are total brain devoid prick that is. Now you are making things up. That would be like the Tories making Liz Truss PM or Suella Braverman Home Secretary or Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary or Rees Mogg leader of the house or Kwasi Kwarteng Chancellor or Nadine Dorries Culture Secretary or Chris Pincher deputy whip.....................
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 6:56:16 GMT
And deputy PM Rayner, FFS. Abbot doing the accounts Corbyn leading from the back as top adviser on Racial tension, Dodds as home secratary etc etc And a mass murdering arshole in the lords...Aint life grand? If you are total brain devoid prick that is. Now you are making things up. That would be like the Tories making Liz Truss PM or Suella Braverman Home Secretary or Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary or Rees Mogg leader of the house or Kwasi Kwarteng Chancellor or Nadine Dorries Culture Secretary or Chris Pincher deputy whip..................... Which about says it all, either way the Westminster party is going to feck you, best we feck them first then, by not voting for your own demise either way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 7:00:01 GMT
Now you are making things up. That would be like the Tories making Liz Truss PM or Suella Braverman Home Secretary or Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary or Rees Mogg leader of the house or Kwasi Kwarteng Chancellor or Nadine Dorries Culture Secretary or Chris Pincher deputy whip..................... Which about says it all, either way the Westminster party is going to feck you, best we feck them first then, by not voting for your own demise either way. If we all do not vote do you know what will happen?
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 7:05:06 GMT
Which about says it all, either way the Westminster party is going to feck you, best we feck them first then, by not voting for your own demise either way. If we all do not vote do you know what will happen? I do they will have to pretend they have the support when they don't. Which will cause an almighty backlash from the public. The voting system will be deemed useless and we will have no choice but consider alternatives to the Westminster party of rule over democracy.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 23, 2023 7:40:06 GMT
The prick is not only a kneeling disgrace, he is an absolute danger to the UK.......Does anyone apart from idiots believe anything that comes out of this clowns face.
After vowing to axe the Lords Smarmer has hinted he could make former Labour PMs Tony Blair and Gordon Brown peers Smarmer said 'of course' he wants to look into making the Labour grandees peers It comes after he promised to abolish the House of Lords when in government
Smarmer has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government.
The leader was criticised this week after senior party figures confirmed plans to pack the Lords so they outnumber the Tories in the upper chamber in the event Labour win at the next general election.
This was despite a promise to abolish the Lords when in government.
Starmer (pictured) has hinted he could appoint Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to the
House of Lords to help serve a future Labour government
Yesterday smarmer said he 'of course' wants to talk to Labour grandees – including the two former prime ministers – about becoming peers.
But a Tory spokesman said: 'Labour's dodgy dealings know no limits. After denying an honours list, Slippery Smarmer is plotting to stuff the Lords full of his cronies, including Tony "open borders" mass murdering prick Blair and Gordon "sold the gold" Brown.
Appointing Labour peers is par for the course for Labour PSs if he achieves that position. The Tories have packed the Lords with Tory peers for over a decade and the balance needs addressing. As to your point about Starmer wanting to abolish or reform the HoLs this in not mutually exclusive to elevating labour peers. You really have picked a none story here. Did the fact that smarmer promised to do away with the HOL Whistle above your head wonky?
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Post by Handyman on Jun 23, 2023 8:32:03 GMT
IMHO the Lords are there to quality control legislation put forward by the Commons, if I remember correctly at least on one occasion when Labour under Blair were in Government because the Lords were not happy with a Bill Labour had put forward they ignored the Lords, and pushed their Bill though using the Parliamentary Privilege Act.
There are at present 775 members of the Lords, Bishops 24, others 5 Conservative 248, Labour 166, Liberal Democrats 83, and Crossbenchers 183 IMHO a relatively even balance, to load it up in favour of one party IMO should not happen.
The Lords change all the time, death, Lords not attending or kicked out , natural wastage etc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 9:03:40 GMT
Appointing Labour peers is par for the course for Labour PSs if he achieves that position. The Tories have packed the Lords with Tory peers for over a decade and the balance needs addressing. As to your point about Starmer wanting to abolish or reform the HoLs this in not mutually exclusive to elevating labour peers. You really have picked a none story here. Did the fact that smarmer promised to do away with the HOL Whistle above your head wonky? Not it didn't but the fact that it will take years even as much as a decade to disband the HOL and find a replacement system with the electoral nightmare that will ensue seems to have been missed by you. Your idea seems to be - 1st day disband the HOLs, 2nd day hold elections for a second chamber, 3rd day get them to work.😂 Whilst the process is happening Starmer will appoint Labour Lords to counter balance the Tory party stuffing the house with Tories.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 9:09:55 GMT
Did the fact that smarmer promised to do away with the HOL Whistle above your head wonky? Not it didn't but the fact that it will take years even as much as a decade to disband the HOL and find a replacement system with the electoral nightmare that will ensue seems to have been missed by you. Your idea seems to be - 1st day disband the HOLs, 2nd day hold elections for a second chamber, 3rd day get them to work.😂 Whilst the process is happening Starmer will appoint Labour Lords to counter balance the Tory party stuffing the house with Tories. So much to standing up to the Labour party when they lie then Red. That didn't last long.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 23, 2023 9:12:12 GMT
This is why Labour have got no policies on anything, because Starmer does that much backtracking he'd be called to task, like he is now, if he were to set out his policies in writing, so he just makes them up as he goes along, according to how the public swing is looking.
How the fuck could anyone vote for a leader who flip-flops about like that, he can't be trusted and that's a fact, he'll sell the UK down the river at the first opportunity, things might not be looking rosey right now, but by fuck if Starmer becomes Prime Minister what glimmer of hope we have now will be completely gone.
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