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Post by zanygame on Jun 21, 2023 9:19:41 GMT
They don't need my house they need homes of their own. Rents in the Uk are twice the cost of a mortgage, that's because there's shortage of housing. No , Zany, every little bit helps in this respect. I take it your answer is 'no' - or to put it another way, you volunteer others to be directly affected rather than yourself. I can understand your logic and reluctance. Go away. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 21, 2023 9:28:34 GMT
No , Zany, every little bit helps in this respect. I take it your answer is 'no' - or to put it another way, you volunteer others to be directly affected rather than yourself. I can understand your logic and reluctance. Go away. Yes you would like that. Maybe you would be happy if we all moved to another country to make room for these unwanted imports. But you will never be happy will you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 10:18:47 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required.
Social housing means affordable homes to rent
The one Prime Minister who is more responsible than any other for the present housing crisis is Margaret Thatcher, because the building of council / local authority houses largely ended after she came to power in 1979.
To be fair, the governments of both Blair and Brown did little better
We have got to get away from this ridiculous Tory idea that building ONLY affordable home to buy is the only answer, it is not, there has got to be large numbers of homes to rent, at fair rents.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 21, 2023 10:29:57 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required. Social housing means affordable homes to rent The one Prime Minister who is more responsible than any other for the present housing crisis is Margaret Thatcher, because the building of council / local authority houses largely ended after she came to power in 1979. To be fair, the governments of both Blair and Brown did little better We have got to get away from this ridiculous Tory idea that building ONLY affordable home to buy is the only answer, it is not, there has got to be large numbers of homes to rent, at fair rents. In thatchers time we never had the invasion of our shores that we have now fiddles. How much social housing did labour build when they were infesting no 10? |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 21, 2023 10:40:18 GMT
May I suggest you re-read the thread, this for starters but it's not the only example: The perks of citizenship in this scenario would be free health care and in and out of work benefits.Healthcare is not free, not even under the NHS, and other benefits are not free, they come out of taxes Excuse me for assuming you knew I meant free at the point of use. That's why I said immigrants would pay taxes but not get the benefits immediately. Why is conversation with you always so dull. Depends who I'm talking to. |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 21, 2023 10:48:04 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required. Social housing means affordable homes to rent The one Prime Minister who is more responsible than any other for the present housing crisis is Margaret Thatcher, because the building of council / local authority houses largely ended after she came to power in 1979. To be fair, the governments of both Blair and Brown did little better We have got to get away from this ridiculous Tory idea that building ONLY affordable home to buy is the only answer, it is not, there has got to be large numbers of homes to rent, at fair rents. We have had a shortage of good affordable housing since WW2 when the population was much smaller that it is today, Council Tenants have had the right to buy their Council property long before that the problem being nobody told them that, when Thatcher came to power she made them aware and many did buy their Council Property. We have never had a time when enough affordable housing was available, the Tories have built more Social Houses than Labour have , Councils transferred their responsibility for their Housing as they could not afford to make repairs , and struggled to collect rents to Housing Associations, Labour when in power also sole them off Today as the population is over 65 million and expected to reach 70 million in the next few years, we will be even more short of affordable Housing , freedom of movement , illegal migrants, and alleged Asylum seekers who arrive in their hundreds every week means we cannot house them as well as thousands of the indigenous people many of whom have been on a waiting list for years. Due to demand outstripping demand supply for Social Accommodation, private rental the rents are high very high , the price of buying a home has gone through the roof, we cannot build fast enough to supply demand , we are also running out of land where we can build, out infrastructure is close to collapsing, the SE and South is in danger of running out of water, let alone houses The average rent for a flat in London is £2,000 plus bills . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 21, 2023 10:56:54 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required.Social housing means affordable homes to rent The one Prime Minister who is more responsible than any other for the present housing crisis is Margaret Thatcher, because the building of council / local authority houses largely ended after she came to power in 1979. To be fair, the governments of both Blair and Brown did little better We have got to get away from this ridiculous Tory idea that building ONLY affordable home to buy is the only answer, it is not, there has got to be large numbers of homes to rent, at fair rents. Why should we keep up with the 'numbers required' because we're being invaded by illegal migrants, so your solution is to build them houses, and not to stop them.
That's a typical lefty response, you do know that at the rate they are currently invading our shores the UK will be packed to the rafters in a few years, why should we be building houses to accommodate migrants, while they are abandoning their perfectly safe countries like Albania, coming to the UK so they can get a FREE house, free NHS, free schools, free benefits, and they don't have to lift a fuckin finger.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 21, 2023 11:11:16 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required. Social housing means affordable homes to rent The one Prime Minister who is more responsible than any other for the present housing crisis is Margaret Thatcher, because the building of council / local authority houses largely ended after she came to power in 1979. To be fair, the governments of both Blair and Brown did little better
We have got to get away from this ridiculous Tory idea that building ONLY affordable home to buy is the only answer, it is not, there has got to be large numbers of homes to rent, at fair rents. Blair and Brown actually did worse - lectures on the shortage of housing from people who put those two charlatans in power are hilarious.. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 21, 2023 12:07:14 GMT
I thought most local authorities and housing associations already imposed some restrictions and qualification on who they had as tenants.
As an aside, could available housing in the UK be increased — and perhaps prices kept lower — by restricting property ownership to UK residents only...?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 12:36:07 GMT
 Theres nothing better to back up any argument than EVIDENCE If anyone cares to look at the chart, you can very clearly see that council house building fell off the edge of a cliff as soon as Margaret Thatchers government came to power. No government since has a worse record than Margaret Thatcher The housing shortage in the 1960s and 1970s was no where near as critical as it is now As stated in my previous post, Blair and Brown were not much better in so much as they never put right the damage that Thatcher clearly did. Today a housing shortage is compounded by a cost of living crisis, a mortgage crisis and a shortage of affordable homes to rent, and its a Tory government who has been in charge for THIRTEEN YEARS. The last government to build Council Houses in any kind of numbers which were required was the government of Jim Callaghan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 12:36:12 GMT
I thought most local authorities and housing associations already imposed some restrictions and qualification on who they had as tenants. As an aside, could available housing in the UK be increased — and perhaps prices kept lower — by restricting property ownership to UK residents only...? That is an obvious good idea and the fact that it is not happening is indicative of whose money is doing the talking. And it is not that of the British people. And yes we need to seriously ramp up housing construction, both to buy and as social lets, we should temporarily suspend right to buy until we have a sufficiency of social housing, restrict new build to first time buyers or those needing to move into a particular area, crack down on land banking, impose high taxes on second homes, and mandate planning permission as a requirement to convert private flats into Airbnbs. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2023 12:41:32 GMT
In 13 years of Conservative government there has not been any plan or effort to build social housing in the numbers which are required. Nor did Labour whilst they allowed mass immigration to spiral, cut interest rates, abolished TESSA savings options and caused a house price boom. |
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Post by piglet on Jun 21, 2023 12:54:10 GMT
I havent read all the posts , but if you believe this you are a bit naive. Its just bluster, meant to blind you, while nothing changes.
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Post by Toreador on Jun 21, 2023 14:21:40 GMT
View AttachmentTheres nothing better to back up any argument than EVIDENCE If anyone cares to look at the chart, you can very clearly see that council house building fell off the edge of a cliff as soon as Margaret Thatchers government came to power.
No government since has a worse record than Margaret Thatcher The housing shortage in the 1960s and 1970s was no where near as critical as it is now As stated in my previous post, Blair and Brown were not much better in so much as they never put right the damage that Thatcher clearly did. Today a housing shortage is compounded by a cost of living crisis, a mortgage crisis and a shortage of affordable homes to rent, and its a Tory government who has been in charge for THIRTEEN YEARS. The last government to build Council Houses in any kind of numbers which were required was the government of Jim Callaghan. Of course council house building receded, they had no money. The main thrust of selling houses was to reduce the massive shortfall in local authority coffers. They were not allowed to spend on housing other than refurbishing existing stock. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 21, 2023 14:26:04 GMT
And the governments talk about "affordable housing" rather than "social housing", which is not the same thing.
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