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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 18:07:04 GMT
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. As for the rest of your post debating something you imagined I posted, I'd just like to say that Ned will post whenever, wherever, and whatever he likes (within rules and reason). You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. Actually, if I gave a fig, I wouldn't be on forums. I don't need a safe space from Thomas. What Thomas wouldn't say is that Scots who no longer live in Scotland don't get a vote in Scotland. |
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Post by morayloon on Jun 24, 2023 3:11:59 GMT
You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. Actually, if I gave a fig, I wouldn't be on forums. I don't need a safe space from Thomas. What Thomas wouldn't say is that Scots who no longer live in Scotland don't get a vote in Scotland. If you are talking about the Referendum, it was only right that ex-pat Scots didn't get a vote. They lost all rights to have a vote on the country's future when they left to live and work elsewhere. All residents were allowed to vote if, of course, they were registered to vote in Scotland. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 24, 2023 3:52:08 GMT
Actually, if I gave a fig, I wouldn't be on forums. I don't need a safe space from Thomas. What Thomas wouldn't say is that Scots who no longer live in Scotland don't get a vote in Scotland. If you are talking about the Referendum, it was only right that ex-pat Scots didn't get a vote. They lost all rights to have a vote on the country's future when they left to live and work elsewhere. All residents were allowed to vote if, of course, they were registered to vote in Scotland. FFS they are still Scots. They had as much right as you. Now and now thanks to the SNATS anyone and their fucking dog can vote...Anyway fellow Brit a fellow Brit you will be for the rest of your days... |
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Post by om15 on Jun 24, 2023 6:57:49 GMT
Of course, most disloyal of them.
On the other hand, as those that had experienced the real world and had broadened their minds with travel they were almost certainly going to vote down seperation.
Anyway, Ricky says NO, so it is all pretty academic, there isn't going to be another referendum for at least 50 years, so don't worry about it.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 9:52:17 GMT
no you arent correct. Being scottish does give you a vote. Not only that , we also let people who werent born scottish , but are what we call "new scots , " get the vote as per your example.
As you rightly point out ,italian scots or syrian scots get to vote in scottish elections and referendums. British english do not.
Im sorry ned , but you arent giving us a good example of this cohesive imaginary superior nationality that is britishness are you , when paulo in paisley can vote in scottish referendums and elections , but ned in kent cannae.
i welcome you coming on and posting about my countries politics ned , as well you know. What im digging at is of course your previous scattergun rearguard action when losing arguments where you run off crying you dont care about scottish politics.
In future , we can dismiss that .
Actually, you don't, because you can't deny them the vote. You can personally call them whatever you like, they are still British, just like you. The anti-English politics is a different story, and mostly there to invoke your feelies.
Scottish politics is Ned's concern, because it's corrupt, morally and financially, which does have an effect on the rest of the Union.
Why would i want to deny new scots the vote?
Havent you saxons learned your lesson about no taxation without representation?
Neds opinion is that Ben the brit in benidorm should have a vote in blighty , despite living in iberia for twenty years , but piotr the EU citizen living in nottingham shouldnt because he isnt of the anglo saxon blood.
I welcome neds forays into scottish politics. It gives me the chance to educate him , and what normally happens after having his arse handed to him on a plate , he runs off screaming personal insults , throwin every diversion imaginable in his wake , then finally crys off he doesnt care about scotland.
Its funny , but quite sad too.
Anyway ned can speak for himself b4. He doesnt need you to hold his hand , but you quite obviously need others to hold yours.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 9:58:46 GMT
You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. Actually, if I gave a fig, I wouldn't be on forums. I don't need a safe space from Thomas. What Thomas wouldn't say is that Scots who no longer live in Scotland don't get a vote in Scotland. you know ned im convinced there are numerous mentally ill people in your country running around posting their insanities on forums like this. You know , like the guy you handed our old forum over to , who has in turn run it into the ground.
In my time posting on these forums , i have been called everything under the sun . From a russian bot , to an american lackey. Remember the time i had to prove my scottishness by proving i knew what the word glaikit meant? 
Its always the same old story with anglo saxon right wing christian conservatives , or the tommy robinson mentally ill fan club on these forums. Any old diversion and personal insult will do while they flounder about in the dirt looking for an escape from the debate they are losing hands down.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 10:02:04 GMT
Anyway, Ricky says NO, so it is all pretty academic, there isn't going to be another referendum for at least 50 years, so don't worry about it. spot on ommy. Of course , in the real world , while ricky and his chum starmer say no to any more referendums , we scots are going to use elections to voice our support for independence.
There cant be too many countires on earth that have asked the colonising nation permission to leave their wee empire. The irish for example used the 1918 general election .
You will be fighting scottish independence every single election till the day it happens.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 10:12:03 GMT
whats up b4, is your head hurting after being given yet another lecture on national identity.?
Imagine thinking sitting screaming you arent scottish but british on some obscure interwebby forum was going to erase our nationality.
Once sir keir takes you back into the EU , i will give you a big hug and say welcome home fellow european citizen , and demand my fellow scots dont laugh at the back.
Well, since I never did this I can only reach the same conclusion. I was actually highlighting the fact that you promote the lie that they're mutually exclusive and just to deny the reality that you are British. It's a lie you persist in, obviously to indoctrinate either yourself of those around you.
As for Starmer and the EU, it's just another deflection by the cybernat in an attempt to hide behind humour. I hear a 5th of Scots live alone, so I can understand why there's a vocal bunch of cybernats online.
you were trying to belittle and rubbish scottish identity.
How many times does it need pointing out to you scottishness and our national identity isnt something someone as puny as you can take away by screaming about britishness.?
two thirds of scots according to the last census , see themselves as i do .........scottish interms of nat ID. A further 18 % are comfortable with a dual scottish and british identity , while a mere 6 % identify as brit only.
So your denial of scotlands national identity is in a minority , in the country where it matters.
You know , you germanics have been trying to wipe out us celts since the 5th century AD. We are still here.
From what i see , its not scottishness thats under threat b4. Its your britishness. Hence all the wailing about a long gone empire , the west britons leaving a 100 years ago , and anglo britian becoming a mere region of europe.
As for starmer , many a truth said in jest . Not only will you be fighting every election against us scots irish and welsh ending your onion , and casting it into the dusbin of history where it belongs , but in your own country , you will be fighting against the pro european forces who clearly are determined to drage you back into europe as you struggle to survive outside it.
Reality is a terrible thing for the brit nat.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 10:18:19 GMT
Yes opens up a three point lead
New poll shows independence is now only a matter of time
A new large-scale survey on Scotland's future has found a solid majority supporting Scottish Independence. Polling company 'Find Out Now' carried out 5,300 interviews between 13th and 20th June 2023, with the question: "If there were a referendum on Scottish independence with the question, “Should Scotland be an independent country?”, how would you vote?"
Using a nationally representative sample of 1,249 from these interviews, and taking account of likelihood to vote, they found that 48% of Scots would support independence, with just 45% preferring to stay under Westminster rule. The remaining 7% were undecided about Scotland's future constitutional status.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 10:20:23 GMT
Although it didn't include 16 and 17 year olds, the weight of support for Yes among younger age groups is clear from the chart above. Support for the union among under 35s barely reaches a quarter. Strong union support is fairly entrenched among the over 65s.
Oh dear. Tic tok for the onion .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 11:03:52 GMT
Of course, most disloyal of them. On the other hand, as those that had experienced the real world and had broadened their minds with travel they were almost certainly going to vote down seperation. Anyway, Ricky says NO, so it is all pretty academic, there isn't going to be another referendum for at least 50 years, so don't worry about it. Shame really, can't Scotland just be divided into two parts, with the ScotNats relocated to Rwanda? |
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Post by om15 on Jun 24, 2023 11:04:12 GMT
The thing is Tommo, the Union with Scotland Act 1706 Article 1 states,
You lot should have read the small print before you signed up, too late to start whinging now.
Anyway, there are going to be a few interesting Court Cases before the next election, the details of which may well swing the floating voters away from separation.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:18:23 GMT
The thing is Tommo, the Union with Scotland Act 1706 Article 1 states, You lot should have read the small print before you signed up, too late to start whinging now. Anyway, there are going to be a few interesting Court Cases before the next election, the details of which may well swing the floating voters away from separation. The act of union said something similar regarding ireland in 1801. Whats your point om ?
That one of the two nations who signed the act of union in 1707 cant in your demented world walk away from the agreement? Somebody better tell dublin. 
ahhh. Back looking at courts saving your onion for you. How simplistic the world is to the naive.
The only seperation that looks to be coming to an end on the horizon is your european seperation ommy.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:21:55 GMT
Of course, most disloyal of them. On the other hand, as those that had experienced the real world and had broadened their minds with travel they were almost certainly going to vote down seperation. Anyway, Ricky says NO, so it is all pretty academic, there isn't going to be another referendum for at least 50 years, so don't worry about it. Shame really, can't Scotland just be divided into two parts, with the ScotNats relocated to Rwanda? Ah ! the old threats keep resurfacing dont they ? Member you told us you were going to partition orkney and shetland from scotland and steal all our oil till it was pointed out to you amongst much mirth and laughter that the islands would be an eclave in scottish waters and wouldnt have any and the brits went all quiet?
After the disaster that is the 6 counties of ireland , where the brit nats are reduced to begging others to take them off your hands to much international ridicule , you would think you would have learned your lesson.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:34:00 GMT
The thing is Tommo, the Union with Scotland Act 1706 Article 1 states, You lot should have read the small print before you signed up, too late to start whinging now. Anyway, there are going to be a few interesting Court Cases before the next election, the details of which may well swing the floating voters away from separation. hey ommy , was it charles de gaulle who famously said there isnt a treaty in existence that england hasnt broken? The country famed for breaking treaties telling us we cant end our wee agreement is laughable.
Anyway , was just scouring about there on twitter , and i see guido is reporting labour are 22 points ahead of the tories , with rishis personal ratings at an all time low , and the anglo tory government now back at the same low level it was when dizzie lizzie truss was at the helm in oct 2022?
I fink you have enough problems on your plate mate never mind us. Economy in a complete fucking mess , tory government clueless what to do and running around like headless chickens , peoples mortgage rates through the roof and the anger growing massively. Wee bits of 18th century pieces of paper arent going to save you mate.
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