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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 19:10:15 GMT
It will be interesting to see by how much Scottish identity has been diluted by immigration from England. Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids. Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 19:35:08 GMT
Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids. Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. I believe this is the case, but who knows what plans they have up there under some oddball regime. ScotNat propaganda is very divisive and illogical, especially on home soil. They promote the idea that British and Scottish are somehow mutually exclusive, which they are clearly not. To go around claiming one isn't British, when one clearly is, seems to have more in common with gender dysphoria than national identity or citizenship.
British and Scottish cannot easily be separated or ignored. The union has existed for too long, which leaves me to question how the ScotNat will erase everything British without the use of hard Orwellian fascism. I doubt they will even address this, because it's more profitable to maintain the divide. |
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Post by morayloon on Jun 22, 2023 21:43:28 GMT
Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids. Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. Quite right |
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 7:27:00 GMT
Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. I believe this is the case, but who knows what plans they have up there under some oddball regime. ScotNat propaganda is very divisive and illogical, especially on home soil. They promote the idea that British and Scottish are somehow mutually exclusive, which they are clearly not. To go around claiming one isn't British, when one clearly is, seems to have more in common with gender dysphoria than national identity or citizenship.
British and Scottish cannot easily be separated or ignored. The union has existed for too long, which leaves me to question how the ScotNat will erase everything British without the use of hard Orwellian fascism. I doubt they will even address this, because it's more profitable to maintain the divide. Britishness is a geographical name , same as iberian , or scandinavian. There is no nation , country or state on this earth called britian. If you believe there is show me where it is on a map.? When you cant even get the fucking name of your so called country correct , then you really are on a shoogly peg..
They already are and have been for 300 years of union. For example , i have a scottish birth and marriage certificate. You have an english/welsh one. I can vote for my nations parliament , you cant. An imaginary country that doesnt exist on any map , and doesnt even issue british brith certificates , a basic identifier of any country in the world , and yet you tell me your britishness overrules my scottishness? 
How we laughed.
Scotland is one of the most easily identified countires in the world. When you think of whiskey , tartan , bagpipes , stovies ,haggis and much more , immediately you think of scotland , not england , britian or anywhere else.
If scottishness isnt a national identity , or a nation , then no country in the world is. Scotland is one of the oldest countries in europe , if not world wide , with clearly defined boundaries stretching back 800 years , and our nation going back to the ninth century , making us a 100 years older than england , and 850 years older than your imaginary country britian.
...and yet , for the hard of thinking like you b4 , we have a clear example of where that happened.
Ireland was ruled in part and fully by england for 800 years. Scotland has been in a union with england half that , and yet not only did the irish also like us maintain their national identity despite similar attempts by clowns like you to erase their identity , but they successfully seperated britishness and irishness.
Once upon a time the irish were being told they were the west britons , and how they , like us , laughed.
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 7:29:52 GMT
Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids. Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. Thats the same in most countries is it not?
My brother in law is english , lives in france , but can vote in France.
Complete false dichotomy.
By the way ned , why are you yet again on a scottish thread lecturing us scots about how meaningless our nationality is? I thought you didint care about scottish politics ?
Actions as ever speak louder than words eh?
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 7:38:57 GMT
I believe this is the case, but who knows what plans they have up there under some oddball regime. ScotNat propaganda is very divisive and illogical, especially on home soil. They promote the idea that British and Scottish are somehow mutually exclusive, which they are clearly not. To go around claiming one isn't British, when one clearly is, seems to have more in common with gender dysphoria than national identity or citizenship.
British and Scottish cannot easily be separated or ignored. The union has existed for too long, which leaves me to question how the ScotNat will erase everything British without the use of hard Orwellian fascism. I doubt they will even address this, because it's more profitable to maintain the divide. Britishness is a geographical name , same as iberian , or scandinavian. There is no nation , country or state on this earth called britian. If you believe there is show me where it is on a map.? When you cant even get the fucking name of your so called country correct , then you really are on a shoogly peg..
They already are and have been for 300 years of union. For example , i have a scottish birth and marriage certificate. You have an english/welsh one. I can vote for my nations parliament , you cant. An imaginary country that doesnt exist on any map , and doesnt even issue british brith certificates , a basic identifier of any country in the world , and yet you tell me your britishness overrules my scottishness?
How we laughed.
Scotland is one of the most easily identified countires in the world. When you think of whiskey , tartan , bagpipes , stovies ,haggis and much more , immediately you think of scotland , not england , britian or anywhere else.
If scottishness isnt a national identity , or a nation , then no country in the world is. Scotland is one of the oldest countries in europe , if not world wide , with clearly defined boundaries stretching back 800 years , and our nation going back to the ninth century , making us a 100 years older than england , and 850 years older than your imaginary country britian.
...and yet , for the hard of thinking like you b4 , we have a clear example of where that happened.
Ireland was ruled in part and fully by england for 800 years. Scotland has been in a union with england half that , and yet not only did the irish also like us maintain their national identity despite similar attempts by clowns like you to erase their identity , but they successfully seperated britishness and irishness.
Once upon a time the irish were being told they were the west britons , and how they , like us , laughed.
They are not laughing at the moment, they are fighting a rear guard action against the EU open borders who have flooded them with immigration and have destroyed their identity. Which only the populists have taken up their cause. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 23, 2023 10:07:50 GMT
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And he's right.
The Saltire does not belong to the Anglophobic SNAT socialists, it belongs to all of Scotland.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 10:53:02 GMT
Being Scottish doesn't give you a vote. Having a Scottish postcode gives you a vote. You can be Italian and have a vote, correct me if I'm wrong. Thats the same in most countries is it not?
My brother in law is english , lives in france , but can vote in France.
Complete false dichotomy.
By the way ned , why are you yet again on a scottish thread lecturing us scots about how meaningless our nationality is? I thought you didint care about scottish politics ?
Actions as ever speak louder than words eh?
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. As for the rest of your post debating something you imagined I posted, I'd just like to say that Ned will post whenever, wherever, and whatever he likes (within rules and reason). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 12:19:18 GMT
Thats the same in most countries is it not?
My brother in law is english , lives in france , but can vote in France.
Complete false dichotomy.
By the way ned , why are you yet again on a scottish thread lecturing us scots about how meaningless our nationality is? I thought you didint care about scottish politics ?
Actions as ever speak louder than words eh?
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. As for the rest of your post debating something you imagined I posted, I'd just like to say that Ned will post whenever, wherever, and whatever he likes (within rules and reason). You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 14:08:41 GMT
Thats the same in most countries is it not?
My brother in law is english , lives in france , but can vote in France.
Complete false dichotomy.
By the way ned , why are you yet again on a scottish thread lecturing us scots about how meaningless our nationality is? I thought you didint care about scottish politics ?
Actions as ever speak louder than words eh?
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. no you arent correct. Being scottish does give you a vote. Not only that , we also let people who werent born scottish , but are what we call "new scots , " get the vote as per your example.
As you rightly point out ,italian scots or syrian scots get to vote in scottish elections and referendums. British english do not.
Im sorry ned , but you arent giving us a good example of this cohesive imaginary superior nationality that is britishness are you , when paulo in paisley can vote in scottish referendums and elections , but ned in kent cannae.
i welcome you coming on and posting about my countries politics ned , as well you know. What im digging at is of course your previous scattergun rearguard action when losing arguments where you run off crying you dont care about scottish politics.
In future , we can dismiss that .
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 14:10:28 GMT
Britishness is a geographical name , same as iberian , or scandinavian. There is no nation , country or state on this earth called britian. If you believe there is show me where it is on a map.? When you cant even get the fucking name of your so called country correct , then you really are on a shoogly peg..
They already are and have been for 300 years of union. For example , i have a scottish birth and marriage certificate. You have an english/welsh one. I can vote for my nations parliament , you cant. An imaginary country that doesnt exist on any map , and doesnt even issue british brith certificates , a basic identifier of any country in the world , and yet you tell me your britishness overrules my scottishness?
How we laughed.
Scotland is one of the most easily identified countires in the world. When you think of whiskey , tartan , bagpipes , stovies ,haggis and much more , immediately you think of scotland , not england , britian or anywhere else.
If scottishness isnt a national identity , or a nation , then no country in the world is. Scotland is one of the oldest countries in europe , if not world wide , with clearly defined boundaries stretching back 800 years , and our nation going back to the ninth century , making us a 100 years older than england , and 850 years older than your imaginary country britian.
...and yet , for the hard of thinking like you b4 , we have a clear example of where that happened.
Ireland was ruled in part and fully by england for 800 years. Scotland has been in a union with england half that , and yet not only did the irish also like us maintain their national identity despite similar attempts by clowns like you to erase their identity , but they successfully seperated britishness and irishness.
Once upon a time the irish were being told they were the west britons , and how they , like us , laughed.
They are not laughing at the moment, they are fighting a rear guard action against the EU open borders who have flooded them with immigration and have destroyed their identity. Which only the populists have taken up their cause. Who the english?
Well personally i blame the mass immigration tories sheepwash as you well know. I think rishi and boris have long proved that its not the eu who are to blame , but successive westminster party governments destroying your nations national identity.
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 14:11:15 GMT
/photo/1 And he's right. The Saltire does not belong to the Anglophobic SNAT socialists, it belongs to all of Scotland. somewhere , sometime , you will im sure have a point to make somewhere vinny. |
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Post by thomas on Jun 23, 2023 14:13:44 GMT
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. As for the rest of your post debating something you imagined I posted, I'd just like to say that Ned will post whenever, wherever, and whatever he likes (within rules and reason). You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. whats up b4, is your head hurting after being given yet another lecture on national identity.?
Imagine thinking sitting screaming you arent scottish but british on some obscure interwebby forum was going to erase our nationality.
Once sir keir takes you back into the EU , i will give you a big hug and say welcome home fellow european citizen , and demand my fellow scots dont laugh at the back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 14:30:48 GMT
Thanks for confirming that I was correct, as did Morayloon. no you arent correct. Being scottish does give you a vote. Not only that , we also let people who werent born scottish , but are what we call "new scots , " get the vote as per your example.
As you rightly point out ,italian scots or syrian scots get to vote in scottish elections and referendums. British english do not.
Im sorry ned , but you arent giving us a good example of this cohesive imaginary superior nationality that is britishness are you , when paulo in paisley can vote in scottish referendums and elections , but ned in kent cannae.
i welcome you coming on and posting about my countries politics ned , as well you know. What im digging at is of course your previous scattergun rearguard action when losing arguments where you run off crying you dont care about scottish politics.
In future , we can dismiss that .
Actually, you don't, because you can't deny them the vote. You can personally call them whatever you like, they are still British, just like you. The anti-English politics is a different story, and mostly there to invoke your feelies.
Scottish politics is Ned's concern, because it's corrupt, morally and financially, which does have an effect on the rest of the Union.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 14:43:36 GMT
You should hear the nasty lies the cybernat say about us elsewhere. whats up b4, is your head hurting after being given yet another lecture on national identity.?
Imagine thinking sitting screaming you arent scottish but british on some obscure interwebby forum was going to erase our nationality.
Once sir keir takes you back into the EU , i will give you a big hug and say welcome home fellow european citizen , and demand my fellow scots dont laugh at the back.
Well, since I never did this I can only reach the same conclusion. I was actually highlighting the fact that you promote the lie that they're mutually exclusive and just to deny the reality that you are British. It's a lie you persist in, obviously to indoctrinate either yourself of those around you.
As for Starmer and the EU, it's just another deflection by the cybernat in an attempt to hide behind humour. I hear a 5th of Scots live alone, so I can understand why there's a vocal bunch of cybernats online.
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