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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2023 15:21:34 GMT
Well Morayloon my British brother, you're forgetting, Scotland already voted multiple times and each time the separatists didn't get anywhere near the amount of votes as unionism has. You lost. Get over it. Soon SNP fascists will be booted out. Next year's election will kill Scottish separatism completely and the devolved parish council in Holyrood will follow. Hold a new referendum, save taxes, abolish devolution. Most Scots are unionist, not SNAT fascists. That can't be right, Vinny. At the census, 2012 I believe it was, a majority of Scots (62%) described themselves as Scottish only, not British.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2023 16:04:50 GMT
The majority of voters in Scotland voted against separatism in the referendum and successive elections.
2 million is the benchmark.
The anglophobic SNAT racists aren't even close.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2023 17:11:50 GMT
The majority of voters in Scotland voted against separatism in the referendum and successive elections. 2 million is the benchmark. The anglophobic SNAT racists aren't even close. The referendum happened nine years ago. Since then, the fallout from Brexit and Covid could have changed enough minds to sway the next vote.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2023 17:24:57 GMT
So why did you quote a census from 11 years ago then?
The elections since the referendum continually demonstrate that unionist votes outnumber SNAT votes.
Your arguments are CRAP.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2023 17:57:54 GMT
In spite of being one short of a majority, the SNP are still the dominant force in Scotland, having won, what is it - eleven elections in a row or something like that? It will be interesting to see how the latest party shake up translates to votes next time. When the SNP loses members, it doesn't necessarily lose them to Unionism, but to other Indy parties like Alba. I think the Unionists and the Nats are pretty close in number. Some unionists may have voted SNP in the hopes of killing Brexit, and some English voters resident in Scotland may have skewed the vote.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2023 19:17:08 GMT
You're missing the point.
Votes dear Ripley, VOTES.
Should Scotland be an independent country? NO: 2,001,926 YES: 1,617,989
SNP's best vote result doesn't come close to that.
Collectively unionist parties outnumber the votes the anglophobic racist National Socialists get, every single time.
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Post by morayloon on Jun 22, 2023 12:19:45 GMT
So why did you quote a census from 11 years ago then? The elections since the referendum continually demonstrate that unionist votes outnumber SNAT votes. Your arguments are CRAP. That was the last test of the Scottish population. Last year's census results should be out soon. It will be interesting to see by how much Scottish identity has been diluted by immigration from England. The numbers identifying themselves as Scottish clearly outnumber those voting SNP. The aim of the Nationalists should be to get to those people and put the argument that being Scottish should be about Scotland's freedom from the toxic union, Scotland's viability as an Independent state etc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 12:45:44 GMT
It will be interesting to see by how much Scottish identity has been diluted by immigration from England. Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 22, 2023 12:59:29 GMT
Morayloon, the racist SNATs aren't polling anywhere near the kind of vote needed to overturn the 2 million unionists. Not even when the vote of the SNP, Greens, Alba, Sovereignty and Scotia Future combined.
You can keep fantasising and bathing in delusion, or you can face facts. Scotland believes in the Union and wants to stay. There is no economic case for separation. There is no political case as you separatists would give away all sovereign power to the EU in one mad heartbeat. There is only the racist case. As you separatists hate English people.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 22, 2023 14:56:36 GMT
Morayloon, the racist SNATs aren't polling anywhere near the kind of vote needed to overturn the 2 million unionists. Not even when the vote of the SNP, Greens, Alba, Sovereignty and Scotia Future combined. You can keep fantasising and bathing in delusion, or you can face facts. Scotland believes in the Union and wants to stay. There is no economic case for separation. There is no political case as you separatists would give away all sovereign power to the EU in one mad heartbeat. There is only the racist case. As you separatists hate English people. Vinny: This is not about the English. Not everything needs to be about the English. This is about the Scots, how they see themselves and what they want for their future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 15:07:15 GMT
It's always about the English and has been since the rise of Adolf Hitler. Why do you treat them like they're a persecuted people?
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Post by morayloon on Jun 22, 2023 17:37:18 GMT
It will be interesting to see by how much Scottish identity has been diluted by immigration from England. Your post is obviously inspired by Hitler, but we also have to question what Scottish identity actually is. Sure, people can identify as Scottish, probably because they were born in Scotland, but as to what it actually means is highly questionable. All I see as modern Scottish identity is a load of materialistic fanatical anti-English bigots who indoctrinate kids. Another post full of bullshit. Par for the course.
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Post by morayloon on Jun 22, 2023 17:50:57 GMT
Morayloon, the racist SNATs aren't polling anywhere near the kind of vote needed to overturn the 2 million unionists. Not even when the vote of the SNP, Greens, Alba, Sovereignty and Scotia Future combined. You can keep fantasising and bathing in delusion, or you can face facts. Scotland believes in the Union and wants to stay. There is no economic case for separation. There is no political case as you separatists would give away all sovereign power to the EU in one mad heartbeat. There is only the racist case. As you separatists hate English people. Who knows what will happen in the future? All I know is that you have form in continually predicting the demise of the SNP Once the campaign starts we'll win people over. We'll be starting from a 47-52% base - not the 25-30% we were at in the first Indyref. Only another Indeyref will determine what Scots think. It's coming up to 9 years since the first one - we need to test the water again. You are talking bullshit about the EU. It is an organisation of sovereign states who have pooled some national sovereignty for the greater good. No economic case? I suggest you look at the resources available in this country. You have been asked before to give examples of this hatred. You have never been able to come up with anything.
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Post by morayloon on Jun 22, 2023 17:52:19 GMT
It's always about the English and has been since the rise of Adolf Hitler. Why do you treat them like they're a persecuted people? You really do come out with some idiotic comments.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 22, 2023 18:28:45 GMT
Morayloon, the racist SNATs aren't polling anywhere near the kind of vote needed to overturn the 2 million unionists. Not even when the vote of the SNP, Greens, Alba, Sovereignty and Scotia Future combined. You can keep fantasising and bathing in delusion, or you can face facts. Scotland believes in the Union and wants to stay. There is no economic case for separation. There is no political case as you separatists would give away all sovereign power to the EU in one mad heartbeat. There is only the racist case. As you separatists hate English people. Who knows what will happen in the future? Democratic defeat of the SNATs is inevitable. Time is against you. Like John Major in 1994, been in too long. Presided over too many cock ups.
And the SNATs have shit policies.
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