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Post by om15 on Jun 16, 2023 8:04:52 GMT
I think that many share that view, the Tories have lost their identity and no one, least of all them, understands what they stand for.
At least with Labour it is clear that they will really, really trash the economy, carry out the wishes of the militant trade unions, get us back into the EU and feather their own nests like a flock of blackbirds, not to mention the woke /gender garbage.
A 15 year spell with Reform UK might be the answer.
The thing is, most people in the UK instinctively identify with Boris and like his disregard for bollocks, and conversely dislike Harman and her shrill sinister humourless hard left agenda, so once again Parliament will be out of step on Monday when they nod this vindictive nonsense through.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 16, 2023 8:27:36 GMT
It mostly consists of "look over there" distraction, same as the guff on here. If that is the best defence, not a surprise that they found him guilty. If you attended social events, then denied that social events took place, it's not unreasonable to conclude that you were lying. Saying that someone else told you it was within the rules isn't going to wash. TBF Andrew most posters have said they are not fans of Boris for reasons connected to this and/or past incidents. The thoughts are that those sitting in judgement are not best placed to be doing so particularly Harperson who declared his guilt before proceedings even started does that fact not bother you whatever your thoughts on Boris? Add to that her less than honest approach around the Iraq war and that previous PM’s like Bliar have been responsible for more serious misdemeanours,he’d already gone as PM the only way this looks is like a witch hunt. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 16, 2023 8:56:40 GMT
But as has been pointed out, that wasn't what he was accused of misleading (lying to) parliament about, so that's irrelevant to this report. Nowhere in that 108-page document is there any hard evidence of this - in fact they seemed more upset that he called them a kangaroo court.And you have to laugh at the Committees claim that the 'party' in the press office was illegal and that Boris lied about it when they admitted he wasn't even there..  I was tickled at one of the headlines, Boris got it wrong, it wasn't a 'kangaroo court', it was a lynching .... LOL spot on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 9:09:58 GMT
Nowhere in that 108-page document is there any hard evidence of this - in fact they seemed more upset that he called them a kangaroo court.And you have to laugh at the Committees claim that the 'party' in the press office was illegal and that Boris lied about it when they admitted he wasn't even there.. I was tickled at one of the headlines, Boris got it wrong, it wasn't a 'kangaroo court', it was a lynching .... LOL spot on. See there we go again another lie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 9:12:19 GMT
So here we are again. More noise and bluster. More decent people lives and reputations trashed. All to feed the giant but vulnerable ego of Boris Johnson. Hopefully after Monday and the no doubt overwhelming vote to accept the committees report, we can finally close the book on this deeply flawed man. Yet again he will leave behind a damaged institution, a damaged check and balance on power . Having seen the way the decent parliamentarians serving on this committee have been treated, who now would step forward to replace them when it is time for them to step down. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Monday will be how Sunak behaves. Is he strong enough to stand up for truth and decency and process and vote for the report or is so weak - so much in hock to the rump of noisy Johnson advocates that he will find a convenient but unavoidable crucial meeting with the Andorran Foreign Minister and duck the vote. I fear it will be the latter. And their in an instant will be the reason why the Tories urgently need a period in opposition to work out who they are and get their act together. Rubbish. Sunak hates Boris and will have no trouble approving the report. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 16, 2023 9:12:36 GMT
I was tickled at one of the headlines, Boris got it wrong, it wasn't a 'kangaroo court', it was a lynching .... LOL spot on. See there we go again another lie. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you on the kisser, and anyway why are you here trolling and whinging as usual, they've made a special thread for moaners like you, is it too nice for you in there .... LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 9:18:47 GMT
See there we go again another lie. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you on the kisser, and anyway why are you here trolling and whinging as usual, they've made a special thread for moaners like you, is it too nice for you in there .... LOL You made the point that it was a lynching, Johnson was not lynched, therefore you told a lie, he resigned, twice that is the truth. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 16, 2023 9:26:09 GMT
Everybody who was eligible to sit on that committee will have had a view on whether Johnson was guilty or innocent of lying to parliament and the committee whether they said it or not. The committee members were approved by parliament including Harmon. Their job was to investigate whether Johnson had lied to parliament. Lying is almost impossible to prove unless the accused admits to it as such the committee could only go on the evidence as it was, a liar vey rarely admits he has lied. The balance of the evidence is all you need to show someone has lied and this was supplied in full. It has always been the case with the Tories of shifting the blame for their mistakes to someone else, especially Johnson. There is evidence of intimidation and threats against the members of the committee. If not the members of the committee then who? Rees Mogg, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, Braverman>? Rees Mogg does have experience of lying in Parliament.  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 16, 2023 9:27:35 GMT
You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you on the kisser, and anyway why are you here trolling and whinging as usual, they've made a special thread for moaners like you, is it too nice for you in there .... LOL You made the point that it was a lynching, Johnson was not lynched, therefore you told a lie, he resigned, twice that is the truth. I see you are still struggling to understand a idiom, it beggars belief I have to explain to a adult on a adult forum that Johnson wasn't physically hanged by the privileges Committee...... Duh. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 16, 2023 9:30:16 GMT
Everybody who was eligible to sit on that committee will have had a view on whether Johnson was guilty or innocent of lying to parliament and the committee whether they said it or not. The committee members were approved by parliament including Harmon. Their job was to investigate whether Johnson had lied to parliament. Lying is almost impossible to prove unless the accused admits to it as such the committee could only go on the evidence as it was, a liar vey rarely admits he has lied. The balance of the evidence is all you need to show someone has lied and this was supplied in full. It has always been the case with the Tories of shifting the blame for their mistakes to someone else, especially Johnson. There is evidence of intimidation and threats against the members of the committee. If not the members of the committee then who? Rees Mogg, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, Braverman>? Rees Mogg does have experience of lying in Parliament. He can do plenty of that in the House of Lords, that's where they go to sleep off their afternoon booze session. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 9:30:22 GMT
You made the point that it was a lynching, Johnson was not lynched, therefore you told a lie, he resigned, twice that is the truth. I see you are still struggling to understand a idiom, it beggars belief I have to explain to a adult on a adult forum that Johnson wasn't physically hanged by the privileges Committee...... Duh. Ah, when you do it it's an idiom but when others do it its a lie. Wriggle, wriggle liar. You are deliberately inflating the consequence of Johnsons punishment to ridicule. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 16, 2023 9:31:57 GMT
I see you are still struggling to understand a idiom, it beggars belief I have to explain to a adult on a adult forum that Johnson wasn't physically hanged by the privileges Committee...... Duh. Ah, when you do it it's an idiom but when others do it its a lie. Wriggle, wriggle liar. You are deliberately inflating the consequence of Johnsons punishment to ridicule. Carry on making a fool of yourself, and carry on trolling this thread, I take it you don't like the mind zone because you can't do your trolling in there, after all that moaning you did. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 16, 2023 9:39:15 GMT
Rees Mogg does have experience of lying in Parliament. He can do plenty of that in the House of Lords, that's where they go to sleep off their afternoon booze session. Our tax dollars well spent. Useless layabout. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 16, 2023 10:49:03 GMT
So here we are again. More noise and bluster. More decent people lives and reputations trashed. All to feed the giant but vulnerable ego of Boris Johnson. Hopefully after Monday and the no doubt overwhelming vote to accept the committees report, we can finally close the book on this deeply flawed man. Yet again he will leave behind a damaged institution, a damaged check and balance on power . Having seen the way the decent parliamentarians serving on this committee have been treated, who now would step forward to replace them when it is time for them to step down. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Monday will be how Sunak behaves. Is he strong enough to stand up for truth and decency and process and vote for the report or is so weak - so much in hock to the rump of noisy Johnson advocates that he will find a convenient but unavoidable crucial meeting with the Andorran Foreign Minister and duck the vote. I fear it will be the latter. And their in an instant will be the reason why the Tories urgently need a period in opposition to work out who they are and get their act together. Rubbish. Sunak hates Boris and will have no trouble approving the report. Sorry responded to wrong post |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 16, 2023 10:55:15 GMT
You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you on the kisser, and anyway why are you here trolling and whinging as usual, they've made a special thread for moaners like you, is it too nice for you in there .... LOL You made the point that it was a lynching, Johnson was not lynched, therefore you told a lie, he resigned, twice that is the truth. What would we al do whothout you keeping us all on the strait and narrow wonky? |
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