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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 17:28:28 GMT
A post by Red Rackham suggesting the Tories had moved to the centre left led me to think about what a centre right Tory would look like.
I realise that my ideas of what this might be are not necessarily correct.
I imagine a party in favour of low tax and low benefits in which each man and women is supposed to look after themselves with only very few seeming worthy of help.
Cutting funding on health without any thought of how we pay for the endless new treatments now available, but with the secret idea that the wealthy can get it privately
A two tier system.
Anyway that's my impression. Am I wrong.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 12, 2023 21:34:20 GMT
I imagine a party in favour of low tax and low benefits don't we all..  |
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Post by walterpaisley on Jun 12, 2023 21:44:21 GMT
Cutting funding on health without any thought of how we pay for the endless new treatments now available, but with the secret idea that the wealthy can get it privately.. Back from America today. A country where people meet a Brit' and the subject of the NHS usually comes up within minutes. And they are IN AWE of it. (They pay more for their entirely non-functioning system than we do for our rickety one.) |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 12, 2023 21:45:54 GMT
Cutting funding on health without any thought of how we pay for the endless new treatments now available, but with the secret idea that the wealthy can get it privately.. Back from America today. A country where people meet a Brit' and the subject of the NHS usually comes up within minutes. And they are IN AWE of it. (They pay more for their entirely non-functioning system than we do for our rickety one.) LOL - you do tell em.  Have you ever met a Yank who had to experience the NHS? |
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Post by walterpaisley on Jun 12, 2023 21:54:59 GMT
No. But I met a Yank who has to come up with $400 a month to pay for Insulin, so I guess it's all swings and roundabouts.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 12, 2023 22:05:42 GMT
No. But I met a Yank who has to come up with $400 a month to pay for Insulin, so I guess it's all swings and roundabouts. Well have a chat with a Yank who has actually experienced the NHS and get their opinion - it's an eye opener...  The Memsahibs Aunt and Uncle were doing the 'European Tour' when one of their party tripped and broke her hip in London - as she was travelling by herself other members of the group took it in turns to support her in hospital (St Thomas's). Lets just say that they were not exactly in 'awe' of the service... I suspect the Yanks you met who were so keen on the NHS were also the type who wax lyrical about the Canadian System - without ever asking a Canuck what it is really like... |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 12, 2023 22:23:15 GMT
No. But I met a Yank who has to come up with $400 a month to pay for Insulin, so I guess it's all swings and roundabouts. Well have a chat with a Yank who has actually experienced the NHS and get their opinion - it's an eye opener... The Memsahibs Aunt and Uncle were doing the 'European Tour' when one of their party tripped and broke her hip in London - as she was travelling by herself other members of the group took it in turns to support her in hospital (St Thomas's). Lets just say that they were not exactly in 'awe' of the service... I suspect the Yanks you met who were so keen on the NHS were also the type who wax lyrical about the Canadian System - without ever asking a Canuck what it is really like... Yes it must be crap as we have all those health tourists coming here 😳🤔 |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 13, 2023 6:01:41 GMT
Apologies guys, I didn't want another thread on the NHS. This thread is about what people mean by centre right government.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 13, 2023 6:13:01 GMT
Apologies guys, I didn't want another thread on the NHS. This thread is about what people mean by centre right government. I was laughing earlier, Rishi has gone from we must contain AI with a complete U turn into it can be a teacher a war machine and just about anything in between. I wonder how that came about? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 13, 2023 6:14:06 GMT
To low tax/low benefits I would add: Sensible on immigration, rather than the current Labouresque hand-wringing approach.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 13, 2023 6:42:21 GMT
A post by Red Rackham suggesting the Tories had moved to the centre left led me to think about what a centre right Tory would look like... One would look very much like a typical Republican in the United States, I should have thought, but perhaps a bit more 'socially progressive'. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 13, 2023 6:44:23 GMT
Well have a chat with a Yank who has actually experienced the NHS and get their opinion - it's an eye opener... The Memsahibs Aunt and Uncle were doing the 'European Tour' when one of their party tripped and broke her hip in London - as she was travelling by herself other members of the group took it in turns to support her in hospital (St Thomas's). Lets just say that they were not exactly in 'awe' of the service... I suspect the Yanks you met who were so keen on the NHS were also the type who wax lyrical about the Canadian System - without ever asking a Canuck what it is really like... Yes it must be crap as we have all those health tourists coming here 😳🤔 The only tourists we get are the ones from the third world wanting free healthcare... |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 13, 2023 6:45:20 GMT
Apologies guys, I didn't want another thread on the NHS. This thread is about what people mean by centre right government. I was laughing earlier, Rishi has gone from we must contain AI with a complete U turn into it can be a teacher a war machine and just about anything in between. I wonder how that came about? He got his orders when he was in Washington.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 13, 2023 6:50:33 GMT
To low tax/low benefits I would add: Sensible on immigration, rather than the current Labouresque hand-wringing approach. And smaller State - at the moment around a third of workers in the UK economy work for the State (and growing every year). That means that every year the productive part of the economy has to work harder to support the growing non-productive part. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 13, 2023 6:57:16 GMT
To low tax/low benefits I would add: Sensible on immigration, rather than the current Labouresque hand-wringing approach. And smaller State - at the moment around a third of workers in the UK economy work for the State (and growing every year). That means that every year the productive part of the economy has to work harder to support the growing non-productive part. Which always leads to the question of what don't we want. Please don't just say that if we cut the waste we could have it all. |
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