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Post by Pacifico on Jun 16, 2023 21:36:28 GMT
So those politicians calling for higher levels of legal immigration and for us to take in more asylum seekers are expecting them to come from Switzerland? Of course the direction of travel is from the third world to the West - it is so basic that it does not need stating. I dont think anyone is really disputing that. But I do not see any politician calling for the entire third world population to come here. So what number do you have in mind? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 7:56:49 GMT
I dont think anyone is really disputing that. But I do not see any politician calling for the entire third world population to come here. So what number do you have in mind? What makes you think I have any number in mind? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 1, 2023 20:22:04 GMT
In the long run this is going to be economically unworkable, because such discretionary spend businesses rely on others earning enough to afford discretionary spending. If fewer and fewer people earn enough to afford discretionary spending because more and more of them are working for low pay in businesses that cannot afford to pay more without losing customers, many such businesses will be driven out of business anyway. And this will happen because there will be fewer customers. There is the danger of a runaway downward spiral the like of which we have never seen before. The only solution I can see which makes sense is either some form of Universal Basic Income, or directly subsidising and removing the tax burden from the low paid. And also somehow doing something to reduce extortionate housing costs. A UBI is a great idea, however your version of it is unaffordable. Housing costs can be tackled one of 2 ways - increase supply (historically very difficult) or reduce demand (never been tried). But is there any actual evidence that people cannot earn enough to afford discretionary spending?. Currently the airlines are forecasting a boom this summer with people jetting off across the globe, that doesnt sound like the death knell in consumer spending. SOME peoole can afford ‘discretionary spending’ But paying a gas and electric bill three times what it was pre covid, and baling my daughters out of their monthly bills over the same time has bloody well wiped out every penny of my discretionary income and i’m about five thousand short of being slapped with the 40% tax, my state pension which i get starting oct 7th will push me 4000 into that 40% bracket and my ‘mortgage’ on the extra loan we took out to cover the dormer loft extension where my office is will rise by £40 when the fixed 1.2% becomes 6% in november (i asked this morning) So if I am having problems finding holiday money BUGGER knows how people where i was three years ago - where the ONLY people who got a pay rise were the ones on the NMW and only then because the bloody LAW demanded they got it - are managing. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 1, 2023 21:34:23 GMT
I'm just wondering about this process of forced sterilisation in India. Did it ever come to pass? I do not know when it was proposed I remember in 1974 i was part of a schools debate programme organised by the bbc and the LEA. Our school was handed the remit of researching and representing India. It was interesting. At that time China was deeply into its programme of forced abortions for women who were not screwing communist party officials and had fallen pregnant through the actions of their non party activist husbands. The details were broadcast by ‘world in action’ and the murder by child destruction of children in utero at the 30th week of pregnancy were common. Presumably if any such were actually born their sinful parents had to psy for the bullet the red army would use to remove the newest addition to the population?? In contrast India were still operating a carrot policy. Any man wishing to have a vasectomy was rewarded with an umbrella and a rather impressive transistor radio manufactured by Bush. At the time an umbrella was quite a status symbol and a transistor radio was apparently the indian equivalent of a colour TV Ironically my mother got her hands on one of the radios from one of the doctors of indian descent working in the GP surgery where she was a receptionist for the police surgeon. I presume he swiped it from a pallet of such after a visit back home to wield a few bricks in the name of the government …. They were rather decent kit. I still have it. |
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