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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 8:26:11 GMT
Jonsky what rights are victims denied?
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Post by Morgan on Oct 27, 2022 9:11:14 GMT
The human rights act is a necessity. The trouble is that it's crap. You can't have the same human rights for everyone. It seems that "Just Stop Oil " have the "human right " to stop members of the public going about their lawful business and are rarely prosecuted. Lives have been put in danger because they have held up patients on their way to hospital. On the other hand I apparently would not have the human right to go and shit on their heads while they glue themselves to the road if I lost a large business contract because they made me late. Why not? I demand my human right to protest about protestors.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 9:20:06 GMT
Which is why it's nonsense: People are relying on the law to protect them from having broken another law. It's an utter farce.
The Human Rights Act only applies against public bodies, not private companies or individuals.
So the police must facilitate these arseholes' right to protest or they'd be breaching their human rights.
But the protesting arseholes have no reciprocal duty to protect your human rights. So if you die because an ambulance can't get to you, as a result of their actions, then it's tough tits.
Their right to glue themselves to the road is more important than your right to live.
That's why “Human Rights” is a farce. That's why it needs to go.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 9:21:16 GMT
Let me make it easier for you: Perhaps you can tell us what rights you didn't have prior to 2000? Let’s not,and let’s not be patronising. Please answer the question I posed. So, as suspected, you don't know. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2022 12:41:58 GMT
Jonsky what rights are victims denied? Every fucking thing. I hope that clears it up for you? It seems the only ones who have rights are perpretators. How many people have had their lives ruined by false accusations whilst their accusres are not even named? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 15:11:46 GMT
Let me make it easier for you: Perhaps you can tell us what rights you didn't have prior to 2000? An excellent question which really deserved an answer, hey ho. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 16:39:20 GMT
This is a classic case of the Human Rights Act being used to protect criminals. Lawyers representing the Pakistani child rapists argued that their clients had families in this country so deporting them to Pakistan would deny them a family life which they claim contravenes article 8 of the Human Rights Act. Fortunately, on this occasion the appeal failed and the Pakistani scum will be deported. But years of appeals were only possible because criminals hide behind the worst piece of legislation ever introduced into British law, Labours 1998 Human Rights Act. It's an absolute disgrace and should with a sense of urgency be repealed. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 17:03:11 GMT
An excellent question which really deserved an answer, hey ho. But as we've seen, the leftards don't have one. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 27, 2022 17:25:59 GMT
Yes, boot them out never to return Some mother fucker lawyer will try and stop it mate. More than likely, if they think they can get another appeal on some sort of grounds |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 27, 2022 18:02:33 GMT
Let’s not,and let’s not be patronising. Please answer the question I posed. So, as suspected, you don't know. Well I expected an exchange of views,and yes I do know so instead of your patronising I’ll make it easier for you which like another on here gives a false sense of surety that you and your argument is superior to others in actuality comes across as a chimp flinging its excrement at visitors through the bars. Earlier in the thread you posted this Of course I knew,and one of the purposes of the human rights act was to avoid the visit to Europe www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights/human-rights-actfrom that link it says this Also this Therefore parliament can alter the human rights act,there is a myth that it is some sort of construct of the EU,clearly it isn’t and was born as I posted earlier in recognition of the horrors of WW2 and the holocaust which Churchill in no small part was instrumental. I’m not claiming the human rights act is perfect,most legislation is not but it deserves better than some of the observations here. jonksy did make a good point Perhaps this should be looked at,the act can be amended. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 28, 2022 8:46:23 GMT
Are you saying nobody has the right to appeal? In short - Nope. That's not what he said. However, whether this guy should have a right to appeal a decision to remove him from the country after being found guilty of a crime of this nature, is another matter. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 28, 2022 9:37:12 GMT
Let's not lose sight either of the fact that the guilty verdicts were handed down ten years ago. And, according to the Guardian:
"They have now appeared before 12 judges, including a master of the rolls, during hearings at three crown courts, a number of immigration tribunals and the court of appeal. The pair’s legal challenge was funded by more than £550,000 of public money."
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Post by Handyman on Oct 28, 2022 10:23:06 GMT
Let's not lose sight either of the fact that the guilty verdicts were handed down ten years ago. And, according to the Guardian: "They have now appeared before 12 judges, including a master of the rolls, during hearings at three crown courts, a number of immigration tribunals and the court of appeal. The pair’s legal challenge was funded by more than £550,000 of public money." Well said, these two men and I uses the term loosely with others raped young girls some as young as 12 years of age children after plying them with drugs and drink, according to the media over 40 of them over a period time who were systemically raped and passed around like a bag of sweets. Over 40 victims whose lives wellbeing and mental state was badly damaged so badly some may never lead a normal life, they have a far longer sentence the rest of their lives, in comparison their abuses got off lightly These two and the others had a fair trial the Jury having heard all of the evidence convicted these two and the other and found them guilty, yes, these two have served their sentence, now they have used our Laws to try and protect themselves from being deported, no way should these child rapists be allowed to stay the Court though so, I hope when the others finish their sentences they get thrown out as well if at all possible. If I am had may way, they should be chemically castrated first so they can never ever again rape children |
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Post by Steve on Oct 28, 2022 10:31:29 GMT
Let me make it easier for you: Perhaps you can tell us what rights you didn't have prior to 2000? An excellent question which really deserved an answer, hey ho. The right to have your Churchill's ECnHR legacy human rights upheld in a UK court |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 28, 2022 10:32:00 GMT
Let me make it easier for you: Perhaps you can tell us what rights you didn't have prior to 2000? An excellent question which really deserved an answer, hey ho. Our honoured guests from Albania will always be grateful for the protections afforded by the Modern Slavery Act of 2015. |
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