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Post by sandypine on Jun 12, 2023 13:14:46 GMT
Which is the point we all still get snow. But much less frequently That's the point. Less frequently than where and for whom. I get a lot .less snow in SW Scotland than I did in coastal Hampshire, it is warmer here as well, well in the winter, a lots less warm in the summer.The point was that the climate scientist said that snow would become a thing of the past. It is only a dozen years or so since i was snowed in. Snow is weather and what is 'normal' is purely based on personal experience and what is 'normal' never in fact happens. 1963 was a real killer and then a few years later it was as mild as could be |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 12, 2023 13:18:39 GMT
Typical? I took official recorded temps that feed into the IPCC data and have stood as the highest UK temp a few years ago. Are local observations by individuals based on equipment traceable to national standards?No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. They do not give credibility to anything. If the police did you for speeding and said Mr Jones using his own uncertificated instruments also agreed with their view and lent their readings extra credibility they would be laughed out of court. The whole point as regards temps is to give some form of consistency and accuracy which is why traceability to national standards exists. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 13:47:00 GMT
They are the ones who will probably make the.mostoney out of all the ECO bollox whilst not giving a flying fart about the environment in their own country. You need to look up what they are doing in China. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 13:49:41 GMT
If its -7 outside EV's work fine if you only want to do 200 miles without charging. You're about 6 years out of date Jonsky.  You about a century out of date. If frigging heatpumps are so good why don't they install them in EV's? They do. How do I know if my Kia EV6 has a heat pump? Heat pump location/visibility/indication. | Kia EV6 Forum If you do have a heat pump, you will see 4 wires going into a terminal block. One of the wires is pink.  |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 13:52:07 GMT
While the British are fretting about losing their dinky little boilers, which will be useless anyway when the gas runs out, other countries are getting serious about solutions. MAN industrial heat pumpsDistrict heating systems are a solution for powering densely packed smaller homes which most of Britain consists of. Even the commies knew this 40 years ago. And enough power for those draughty victorian homes. Science to the rescue again! |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 13:57:34 GMT
More's the pity. The obvious way forward is for the government to mandate district heating schemes for all new developments using centralised industrial-scale heatpumps. While at the same encouraging and empowering local authorities to replace housing stock unfit for 21st century use with something more appropriate, that can also be served by district-level schemes. I understand that will be an effort on a par with the post-war slum clearances but it is something that has to be done sooner or later. Business as usual simply isn't an option no matter what the Luddites say. The idea that every tiny dwelling is an inviolable castle in which the owner can do anything he likes regardless of the greater effect is simply no longer sustainable. The obvious way is to let the ones who want to buy heat pumps for their old houses get on with it . Fit heat pumps into new builds . Develop hydrogen production for the natural gas network . Keep improving existing systems. I'm not against hydrogen heating. I think it will be generated using electricity from wind power. All those hours ay night when the turbines generate electricity nobody wants will be used to split water. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 12, 2023 14:01:27 GMT
They are the ones who will probably make the.mostoney out of all the ECO bollox whilst not giving a flying fart about the environment in their own country. You need to look up what they are doing in China. Maybe you should take your own advice. China puts out more emissions than the globe does all together including India. Funny how the bumburghers never try their daft tactics there isn’t it. Maybe they have an aversion to hi powered lead. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 14:07:37 GMT
But much less frequently That's the point. Less frequently than where and for whom. I get a lot .less snow in SW Scotland than I did in coastal Hampshire, it is warmer here as well, well in the winter, a lots less warm in the summer.The point was that the climate scientist said that snow would become a thing of the past. It is only a dozen years or so since i was snowed in. Snow is weather and what is 'normal' is purely based on personal experience and what is 'normal' never in fact happens. 1963 was a real killer and then a few years later it was as mild as could be I'd love to see which scientist said snow would be a thing of the past. Just so I could see the time scales involved. The reason they switched from Global warming to Climate change is that people thought 2 degrees warmer meant literally that on any given day it would be 2 degrees warmer than before. They didn't realise it meant the Jet stream would move across allow cold air from the arctic to be drawn down the East coast of the UK forming clouds and reducing sunny days and causing low pressure systems along the English channel which raise the height of tides to a level that would breach current flood barriers. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 14:13:27 GMT
You need to look up what they are doing in China. Maybe you should take your own advice. China puts out more emissions than the globe does all together including India. Funny how the bumburghers never try their daft tactics there isn’t it. Maybe they have an aversion to hi powered lead. Yes, but I took the time to read up rather than just grab headlines and fill the gaps myself. China does most of the manufacturing in the world, that means they make most of our stuff as well, so its OUR Co2 not theirs. Further they are building 24 nuclear power stations and the worlds biggest wind farm. They are currently responsible for 70% of new wind farms. You see China does care about climate change. Hence my hint that you might like to look it up, but never mind. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 14:18:11 GMT
No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. They do not give credibility to anything. If the police did you for speeding and said Mr Jones using his own uncertificated instruments also agreed with their view and lent their readings extra credibility they would be laughed out of court. The whole point as regards temps is to give some form of consistency and accuracy which is why traceability to national standards exists. To poorer comparison. Nearer but not perfect would be. If the police did me for speeding and 200 Mr Joneses using their own uncertificated instruments also agreed with their view then any doubts I cast on the accuracy of the police reading would be laughed out of court. If to 200 uncertified instruments all disagreed with the police reading I think I'd have a pretty good case. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 12, 2023 14:34:31 GMT
Maybe you should take your own advice. China puts out more emissions than the globe does all together including India. Funny how the bumburghers never try their daft tactics there isn’t it. Maybe they have an aversion to hi powered lead. Yes, but I took the time to read up rather than just grab headlines and fill the gaps myself. China does most of the manufacturing in the world, that means they make most of our stuff as well, so its OUR Co2 not theirs. Further they are building 24 nuclear power stations and the worlds biggest wind farm. They are currently responsible for 70% of new wind farms. You see China does care about climate change. Hence my hint that you might like to look it up, but never mind. There are no headlines to grab Zany. The ECO zeolots make sure of that |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 14:44:21 GMT
Yes, but I took the time to read up rather than just grab headlines and fill the gaps myself. China does most of the manufacturing in the world, that means they make most of our stuff as well, so its OUR Co2 not theirs. Further they are building 24 nuclear power stations and the worlds biggest wind farm. They are currently responsible for 70% of new wind farms. You see China does care about climate change. Hence my hint that you might like to look it up, but never mind. There are no headlines to grab Zany. The ECO zeolots make sure of that Well you got your ideas from somewhere. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 12, 2023 15:14:30 GMT
There are no headlines to grab Zany. The ECO zeolots make sure of that Well you got your ideas from somewhere. Yes it's called reality Zany. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 12, 2023 15:58:06 GMT
Well you got your ideas from somewhere. Yes it's called reality Zany. Reality is this. China does most of the manufacturing in the world, that means they make most of our stuff as well, so its OUR Co2 not theirs. Further they are building 24 nuclear power stations and the worlds biggest wind farm. They are currently responsible for 70% of new wind farms. Do you dispute this? |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 12, 2023 16:17:32 GMT
Yes it's called reality Zany. Reality is this. China does most of the manufacturing in the world, that means they make most of our stuff as well, so its OUR Co2 not theirs. Further they are building 24 nuclear power stations and the worlds biggest wind farm. They are currently responsible for 70% of new wind farms. Do you dispute this? No reality is THIS. I had to go to the vets today to pick up Chip and Angel our two shi-tzus after their MOT. Chip has got and issue with his liver and Angel requires a dental and clean because she has a massive underbite so that will add upto to about £1K. Whilst I was there an old dear was in tears because her beloved fur baby required treatment of £400 plus. And said she would phone the vet back as she was going to see if she could raise the funds for her beloved baby. I know she would have put herself in HOC and probably cut back on her own welfare ie food and keeping warm so her companion would get the treatment it required. After she left I paid her bill in full and told the receptionist to call her and say they had just received a donation for cases like hers. That is reality zany and you with your Pseudo-moralistic Stances just add to a persons like that ever increasing burden. I hope it makes you feel all warm inside. |
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