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Post by besoeker3 on Jun 5, 2023 20:53:01 GMT
I have already commented on my personal observations including the dog. I do have a snow pictures nine years ago. It lasted two or three days.  Which is the point we all still get snow. But much less frequently That's the point. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 6, 2023 5:40:23 GMT
Funny how his readings can be dismissed as singular and unimportant yet your cherry picked ones from Heathrow et al are to be considered typical Typical? I took official recorded temps that feed into the IPCC data and have stood as the highest UK temp a few years ago. Are local observations by individuals based on equipment traceable to national standards?No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 9:20:02 GMT
Typical? I took official recorded temps that feed into the IPCC data and have stood as the highest UK temp a few years ago. Are local observations by individuals based on equipment traceable to national standards?No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. Your argument is twisted, instead of arguing with Sandy you would be arguing with Besoeker were his personal temperature records showing Earth cooling rather than heating. Hot spots to measure temperatures are fair game to dispute, Heathrow is notoriously warmer than outside the airport and there are other places. One of them is Norwich which I'm sure I've mentioned before. Norwich temperature is quite regularly recorded as the lowest in Norfolk, yet move some 20 miles north to Cromer and you'll need some really warm clothes. Very convenient for the warmist's records and the lack of truth they support. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 9:25:46 GMT
No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. Your argument is twisted, instead of arguing with Sandy you would be arguing with Besoeker were his personal temperature records showing Earth cooling rather than heating. Hot spots to measure temperatures are fair game to dispute, Heathrow is notoriously warmer than outside the airport and there are other places. One of them is Norwich which I'm sure I've mentioned before. Norwich temperature is quite regularly recorded as the lowest in Norfolk, yet move some 20 miles north to Cromer and you'll need some really warm clothes. Very convenient for the warmist's records and the lack of truth they support. It's cooler on the coast. Who knew? |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 9:43:45 GMT
Your argument is twisted, instead of arguing with Sandy you would be arguing with Besoeker were his personal temperature records showing Earth cooling rather than heating. Hot spots to measure temperatures are fair game to dispute, Heathrow is notoriously warmer than outside the airport and there are other places. One of them is Norwich which I'm sure I've mentioned before. Norwich temperature is quite regularly recorded as the lowest in Norfolk, yet move some 20 miles north to Cromer and you'll need some really warm clothes. Very convenient for the warmist's records and the lack of truth they support. It's cooler on the coast. Who knew? Flippancy is your forte. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 9:57:47 GMT
It's cooler on the coast. Who knew? Flippancy is your forte. I prefer to think of it as deeply cutting sarcasm. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 11:52:30 GMT
I prefer to think of it as deeply cutting sarcasm. Why would/should a mod use deeply cutting sarcasm, perhaps Tinculin might want to explain. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:00:54 GMT
I prefer to think of it as deeply cutting sarcasm. Why would/should a mod use deeply cutting sarcasm, perhaps Tinculin might want to explain. Why shouldn't I? Sarcasm/satire are perfectly valid debate techniques. You posted some nonsense about Cromer being colder than Norwich I pointed out Cromer is on the coast so you'd expect it to be colder. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 12:12:14 GMT
Why would/should a mod use deeply cutting sarcasm, perhaps Tinculin might want to explain. Why shouldn't I? Sarcasm/satire are perfectly valid debate techniques. You posted some nonsense about Cromer being colder than Norwich I pointed out Cromer is on the coast so you'd expect it to be colder. In your haste to find a reason for sarcasm, you missed the whole purpose of why Norwich is not an ideal home for a test station. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:17:52 GMT
Why shouldn't I? Sarcasm/satire are perfectly valid debate techniques. You posted some nonsense about Cromer being colder than Norwich I pointed out Cromer is on the coast so you'd expect it to be colder. In your haste to find a reason for sarcasm, you missed the whole purpose of why Norwich is not an ideal home for a test station. Meanwhile your post was devoid of any links to support your claim that Norwich regularly records the lowest temps in Norfolk. Anyone who actually lives in the area knows that it is almost always warmer inland than on the coast. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 6, 2023 15:34:24 GMT
No, but they do give credibility to them, credibility that you wish to pour doubt upon. You cherrypicked Heathrow in an effort to imply the positioning of recording equipment was giving false highs, you even tried to imply the Botanical gardens in Cambridge are a hot spot. Lol When people start quoting their own personal readings as further proof of record temperatures you try to dismiss them as not relevant. Your argument is twisted, instead of arguing with Sandy you would be arguing with Besoeker were his personal temperature records showing Earth cooling rather than heating. Hot spots to measure temperatures are fair game to dispute, Heathrow is notoriously warmer than outside the airport and there are other places. One of them is Norwich which I'm sure I've mentioned before. Norwich temperature is quite regularly recorded as the lowest in Norfolk, yet move some 20 miles north to Cromer and you'll need some really warm clothes. Very convenient for the warmist's records and the lack of truth they support. Yes, that's why they use an aggregate of readings. Highest recorded temperatures at a certain place make interesting headlines, but when the IPCC talk about highest temperatures they mean highest aggregate temperatures for the country. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 17:49:34 GMT
Your argument is twisted, instead of arguing with Sandy you would be arguing with Besoeker were his personal temperature records showing Earth cooling rather than heating. Hot spots to measure temperatures are fair game to dispute, Heathrow is notoriously warmer than outside the airport and there are other places. One of them is Norwich which I'm sure I've mentioned before. Norwich temperature is quite regularly recorded as the lowest in Norfolk, yet move some 20 miles north to Cromer and you'll need some really warm clothes. Very convenient for the warmist's records and the lack of truth they support. Yes, that's why they use an aggregate of readings. Highest recorded temperatures at a certain place make interesting headlines, but when the IPCC talk about highest temperatures they mean highest aggregate temperatures for the country. So how do they aggregate temperatures when there are no other weather station readings to put into the equation? |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 6, 2023 19:07:22 GMT
Yes, that's why they use an aggregate of readings. Highest recorded temperatures at a certain place make interesting headlines, but when the IPCC talk about highest temperatures they mean highest aggregate temperatures for the country. So how do they aggregate temperatures when there are no other weather station readings to put into the equation? Sorry, are you saying the only weather stations are Heathrow and the botanical gardens in Cambridge? |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 6, 2023 19:24:22 GMT
So how do they aggregate temperatures when there are no other weather station readings to put into the equation? Sorry, are you saying the only weather stations are Heathrow and the botanical gardens in Cambridge? No, I'm saying the Norwich recordings are not balanced out by any other reasonably local official weather stations. There's one south of Kings Lynn on an air base. What I think you are saying is that the decision on warming is based on averaging temperatures taken at weather stations across the country. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 6, 2023 19:31:19 GMT
Sorry, are you saying the only weather stations are Heathrow and the botanical gardens in Cambridge? No, I'm saying the Norwich recordings are not balanced out by any other reasonably local official weather stations. There's one south of Kings Lynn on an air base. What I think you are saying is that the decision on warming is based on averaging temperatures taken at weather stations across the country. Yes that's right. |
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