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Post by andrewbrown on May 29, 2023 14:20:00 GMT
I'm not one to usually quote the Daily Mail (I feel soiled), but I do think that this was an interesting and somewhat surprising poll. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12133253/New-poll-finds-surge-support-Labour-rural-areas-Tories-risk.htmlI don't think that the fact that Tory support is dropping is too much of a surprise. In addition to the planning and housing issues raised in the article, I'll also add rural transport and agriculture as reasons for the drop in support. For me the surprise is that these disenchanted voters are not turning towards LibDems or even Green, but to Labour. I'm not sure I understand why, as that doesn't seem natural to me? |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 29, 2023 15:00:30 GMT
I'm not one to usually quote the Daily Mail (I feel soiled), but I do think that this was an interesting and somewhat surprising poll. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12133253/New-poll-finds-surge-support-Labour-rural-areas-Tories-risk.htmlI don't think that the fact that Tory support is dropping is too much of a surprise. In addition to the planning and housing issues raised in the article, I'll also add rural transport and agriculture as reasons for the drop in support. For me the surprise is that these disenchanted voters are not turning towards LibDems or even Green, but to Labour. I'm not sure I understand why, as that doesn't seem natural to me? Soiled, lol stop being a drama Queen. |
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2023 15:25:01 GMT
I'm not one to usually quote the Daily Mail (I feel soiled), but I do think that this was an interesting and somewhat surprising poll. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12133253/New-poll-finds-surge-support-Labour-rural-areas-Tories-risk.htmlI don't think that the fact that Tory support is dropping is too much of a surprise. In addition to the planning and housing issues raised in the article, I'll also add rural transport and agriculture as reasons for the drop in support. For me the surprise is that these disenchanted voters are not turning towards LibDems or even Green, but to Labour. I'm not sure I understand why, as that doesn't seem natural to me? Soiled, lol stop being a drama Queen. Sunshine only quotes the DM when he thinks either the labour scum will get in or we will rejoin his.beloved EUSSR....Desperate or what lol? |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2023 15:28:48 GMT
I’m not sure whether the country folk is going to vote for Labour in large numbers . Maybe when the countryside doesn’t have many country folk.
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2023 15:30:52 GMT
I’m not sure whether the country folk is going to vote for Labour in large numbers . Maybe when the countryside doesn’t have many country folk. I live in rural Devon mate I don't know anyone who would piss on a labour MP if they were on fire. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 15:44:10 GMT
It's now a proven fact that when Labour lurches more towards the moderate side, call it what you want ... Centre Left or Social Democratic, the party becomes an attractive proposition for a wide cross section of the electorate, including so called "Middle England", the middle class and for some who normally vote Tory.
We saw this in the record breaking 3 terms of office from 1997, and the record majority achieved.
Here in the North, constituencies which had never elected a Labour MP did so for the first time in history, and that included constituencies with large rural populations.
I am half expecting some Tory MPs to announce their retirement before the next general election in the areas close to where I live.
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2023 15:51:22 GMT
It's now a proven fact that when Labour lurches more towards the moderate side, call it what you want ... Centre Left or Social Democratic, the party becomes an attractive proposition for a wide cross section of the electorate, including so called "Middle England", the middle class and for some who normally vote Tory. We saw this in the record breaking 3 terms of office from 1997, and the record majority achieved. Here in the North, constituencies which had never elected a Labour MP did so for the first time in history, and that included constituencies with large rural populations. I am half expecting some Tory MPs to announce their retirement before the next general election in the areas close to where I live. Lefty desperation at it best....LOL....Too many people remember what a total failure they were last time....But of course they have always been a total failure when they infest N0 10 |
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Post by Toreador on May 29, 2023 15:54:45 GMT
Most likely outcome if Tories don't vote tory, is they will abstain.
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Post by dodgydave on May 29, 2023 16:06:59 GMT
I think most people are just ready for a change, and probably feel that a Labour majority would be better than a shitshow coalition that leads to another Scottish independence vote.
Labour are probably going to win by default, but can they do anything to stop the slow decline of country living beyond its means, because its entire population wants "somebody else" to pay for it all?
We need some grown ups in charge, not a trendy parent trying to be their kids best friend.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 16:22:38 GMT
I’m not sure whether the country folk is going to vote for Labour in large numbers . Maybe when the countryside doesn’t have many country folk. It would be suicide for them. Labour hate rural English. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 16:25:28 GMT
Most likely outcome if Tories don't vote tory, is they will abstain. This seems to have been the case in the locals. A very low turn out will be a shameful victory. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 29, 2023 16:26:08 GMT
I'm not one to usually quote the Daily Mail (I feel soiled), but I do think that this was an interesting and somewhat surprising poll. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12133253/New-poll-finds-surge-support-Labour-rural-areas-Tories-risk.htmlI don't think that the fact that Tory support is dropping is too much of a surprise. In addition to the planning and housing issues raised in the article, I'll also add rural transport and agriculture as reasons for the drop in support. For me the surprise is that these disenchanted voters are not turning towards LibDems or even Green, but to Labour. I'm not sure I understand why, as that doesn't seem natural to me? In the constituencies highlighted Labour were already the Second Party. In areas where the LibDems are second I doubt very much that Labour will leapfrog them. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 29, 2023 16:26:14 GMT
I’m not sure whether the country folk is going to vote for Labour in large numbers . Maybe when the countryside doesn’t have many country folk. Labour will destroy Greenbelt land, they want concrete jungles full of Labour voters, in other words all our foreign illegals will have more and more houses built for them, they wont be happy on brownfield land, it isn't up to their desired standard, so every council in the land will be given the go-ahead under a Labour government to fell every tree in sight, destroy all the Greenbelt land, and make way for their open border migrants to invade the UK. |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2023 16:26:56 GMT
I’m not sure whether the country folk is going to vote for Labour in large numbers . Maybe when the countryside doesn’t have many country folk. It would be suicide for them. Labour hate rural English. Too white . Shouldn’t be allowed . |
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Post by Pacifico on May 29, 2023 16:38:57 GMT
It would be suicide for them. Labour hate rural English. Too white . Shouldn’t be allowed . LOL - I spent the morning at our local Country Show watching the Gun Dogs, Terrier racing and Sheep competitions and I noticed then that it would be the sort of gathering that any Guardian reader would detest.. The Scrumpy was delicious though...  |
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