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Post by Steve on Nov 1, 2022 22:58:03 GMT
Grow up FFS you couldn't even answer the simple question of would you prefer to employ 2 people who knew what they were doing or 10 that didn't? I think every other person on the planet except one would understand …ffs Well if you look where he made that point it was in the same post where he positioned his numbers don't matter so I challenged that. Not that I couldn't answer but I chose not to as a higher priority was challenging his BS |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2022 23:10:39 GMT
I think every other person on the planet except one would understand …ffs Well feel free to show us where Jonksy asked that question. The search engine says he didn't Nope. The pedant with a grudge said he didn’t . Anyone who can understand common prose and pretty much read between the lines of common speech would. I pity anyone trying to have a casual chat with you Steve . It would be ok until someone unwittingly exclaims something like ‘ no one believes that ‘ then the pedantry would kick in , followed by pathetic jibes about Specsavers being open tomorrow then ‘ big fat lies ‘ . I bet you are a barrel of fun at parties . |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 23:11:07 GMT
I think every other person on the planet except one would understand …ffs Well if you look where he made that point it was in the same post where he positioned his numbers don't matter so I challenged that. Not that I couldn't answer but I chose not to as a higher priority was challenging his BS Of course numbers do not matter if they are not upto the job. I think putin has found that out rapidly with his excuse for an army. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 1, 2022 23:37:06 GMT
You're adding after the fact caveats.
Can we agree that reducing the numbers of trained experienced police inevitably led to reductions in effective policing?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 23:43:55 GMT
You're adding after the fact caveats. Can we agree that reducing the numbers of trained experienced police inevitably led to reductions in effective policing? I an not adding after the fact caveats
Of course we can but lowering the standards for new recruits has done nothing to reduce the problem and compounded it even more. And those who are skilled in their trade of enfocing crime are stuck behind desks.
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Post by Steve on Nov 1, 2022 23:52:21 GMT
So numbers matter and the UK Government restricting police numbers through the 2010s has had an effect. And yet you want to solely blame Khan for the results of those lower numbers. Doesn't work does it.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 23:57:50 GMT
So numbers matter and the UK Government restricting police numbers through the 2010s has had an effect. And yet you want to solely blame Khan for the results of those lower numbers. Doesn't work does it. FFS numbers DO NOT matter if they are not fit for purpose. And where exactly have I tried to deny that the Tories didn't reduce police numbers? You only had to see the warm welcome they gave may who reduced their numbers at the police convention. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 2, 2022 0:08:00 GMT
Most police are very good, most police time is organised as well as reasonably can be for the right purposes but some people will always assume that the so called 'Woke' activities are somehow taking up most of their time just because the Daily Trash tells them that.
For decades we have staffed our police to the quality and quantity levels many think we should be affording and not the levels that we need to control crime. FFS we don't even properly record the horrendous levels of crime where you, I and the little lady down the street are the subject of attempted fraud nigh on daily.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 2, 2022 0:38:14 GMT
The height restriction for Police was reduced in the late 60's and 70's to 5ft 8ins for men and 5ft 4ins for female Officers in order to increase the numbers of recruits, in the 90's height restriction were abolished completely because it was classed as discrimination I did not know that. This seems the height of stupidity second only to putting PSCO ‘hobby bobbies’ on duties including patrolling streets where fights break out in pubs the law says they are now too young to enter. Look. I understand entirely it’s not a height thing really. My six foot three mate had a five foot two girlfriend who whilst five foot two elfin and petite was also a god only knows how many dans instructor in a less publicised school of karate and if you absolutely HAD to clear a street of a hundred thugs and all you had was a pickaxe handle and her, she’d refuse the pickaxe handle as it would slow her down. But wearing that uniform is surely far more to do with the first impression than the equally necessary skills to back it up. You can’t defuse everything no mind how much you would like to and that means surely you have to LOOK like someone chancing it was rolling some very dodgy dice indeed. The snatch squad was always made up of volunteers, and they were not universally 'big lads', but they were hard bastards who didn't mind a fight. I didn't do it, I wasn't infantry, but I know |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2022 5:09:23 GMT
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Post by Steve on Nov 2, 2022 9:51:03 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2022 10:15:53 GMT
Thanks for the link I will read it a bit later as I have to go out for a while. And yes those in a senior posistion should be sacked. Who picks these inviduals who are supposed to vet new Police recruits? The whole thing stinks. |
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Post by borchester on Nov 2, 2022 19:32:35 GMT
The most dangerous places in England and Wales are;
Durham, North Wales, Kent, Humberside, South Yorkshire, Merseyside, West Midlands, Greater Manchester, West Yorkshire and Cleveland
None of these places are part of London. So play safe and stay inside the M25
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Post by Steve on Nov 2, 2022 19:46:15 GMT
The most dangerous places in England and Wales are;
Durham, North Wales, Kent, Humberside, South Yorkshire, Merseyside, West Midlands, Greater Manchester, West Yorkshire and Cleveland
None of these places are part of London. So play safe and stay inside the M25
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2022 21:16:52 GMT
The most dangerous places in England and Wales are;
Durham, North Wales, Kent, Humberside, South Yorkshire, Merseyside, West Midlands, Greater Manchester, West Yorkshire and Cleveland
None of these places are part of London. So play safe and stay inside the M25
Have you ever tried to find out how Churchill services gather their data or how it is coalated? It appears they use mostly phone apps. You would have more succes in finding out the finer intricacies of the Kremlin than find out anything about Churchill. Where are the daily crimes reported in these so called most dangerous places in the same volume as they are for London? Quite frankly my dear I don't beleive a word of it. |
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