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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2023 10:27:51 GMT
"Quite clearly a women can have a penis"! LOL.
After the interview he apologised for his white privilage then visited a unicorn sanctuary where he tearfully raised a rainbow flag, while on bended knee.
What an utter embarrassment. Yes indeed kiddies, vote LibDem, Ha...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 13:02:22 GMT
There isn't anyone in politics who speaks up for normal people. They've all been brought by the American lunatics.
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Post by patman post on May 24, 2023 13:19:47 GMT
This whole debate isn't about anything that affects my daily life.
I've probably met plenty of people socially and at work whose sexual and gender differences are different from the accepted norm, and I may or may not have realised. But apart from perhaps being entertained by those who make the most of their difference on stage, I can't say the topic has really impacted me.
What is it that I'm not understanding about why this is taking up so much of our politicians' time...?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2023 17:11:27 GMT
There isn't anyone in politics who speaks up for normal people. They've all been brought by the American lunatics. The sensible politicians, the politicians who speak for normal people are slowly being forced out by a politically biased civil service.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2023 17:14:21 GMT
This whole debate isn't about anything that affects my daily life. I've probably met plenty of people socially and at work whose sexual and gender differences are different from the accepted norm, and I may or may not have realised. But apart from perhaps being entertained by those who make the most of their difference on stage, I can't say the topic has really impacted me. What is it that I'm not understanding about why this is taking up so much of our politicians' time...? Pat, we may often disagree but I've never considered you to be stupid. Surely you're not agreeing with Ed Davey, you don't think women can have penises, do you?
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Post by patman post on May 24, 2023 17:24:54 GMT
This whole debate isn't about anything that affects my daily life. I've probably met plenty of people socially and at work whose sexual and gender differences are different from the accepted norm, and I may or may not have realised. But apart from perhaps being entertained by those who make the most of their difference on stage, I can't say the topic has really impacted me. What is it that I'm not understanding about why this is taking up so much of our politicians' time...? Pat, we may often disagree but I've never considered you to be stupid. Surely you're not agreeing with Ed Davey, you don't think women can have penises, do you? It doesn’t worry me as much as it obviously does you. My day is not taken up with figuring out about what the person next to me has in their panties or y fronts. I have dealt with some hairy battle-axes in my time, as I have some effeminate guys, but I can’t say that it’s impacted whatever it is we were dealing with at the time. From what you say, this appears to be your problem, more than it does mine…
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2023 17:32:49 GMT
Pat, we may often disagree but I've never considered you to be stupid. Surely you're not agreeing with Ed Davey, you don't think women can have penises, do you? It doesn’t worry me as much as it obviously does you. My day is not taken up with figuring out about what the person next to me has in their panties or y fronts. I have dealt with some hairy battle-axes in my time, as I have some effeminate guys, but I can’t say that it’s impacted whatever it is we were dealing with at the time. From what you say, this appears to be your problem, more than it does mine… Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress. Jeez, this is akin to teaching children their ABC's.
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Post by patman post on May 24, 2023 18:01:03 GMT
It doesn’t worry me as much as it obviously does you. My day is not taken up with figuring out about what the person next to me has in their panties or y fronts. I have dealt with some hairy battle-axes in my time, as I have some effeminate guys, but I can’t say that it’s impacted whatever it is we were dealing with at the time. From what you say, this appears to be your problem, more than it does mine… Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress. Jeez, this is akin to teaching children their ABC's. Why is the man in a dress likely to cause me any more concern than archbishop in full regalia or a WPC wearing trousers? In the unlikely event that any one of them comes on to me, I’m confident I can deal with the situation without either breaking the law or succumbing. Perhaps you should seek counselling if you find this overwhelming or worrying…
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2023 18:06:10 GMT
Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress. Jeez, this is akin to teaching children their ABC's. Why is the man in a dress likely to cause me any more concern than archbishop in full regalia or a WPC wearing trousers? In the unlikely event that any one of them comes on to me, I’m confident I can deal with the situation without either breaking the law or succumbing. Perhaps you should seek counselling if you find this overwhelming or worrying… What! Did you read my post? Just for clarification I will say again... ...Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress.
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Post by patman post on May 24, 2023 18:18:43 GMT
Why is the man in a dress likely to cause me any more concern than archbishop in full regalia or a WPC wearing trousers? In the unlikely event that any one of them comes on to me, I’m confident I can deal with the situation without either breaking the law or succumbing. Perhaps you should seek counselling if you find this overwhelming or worrying… What! Did you read my post? Just for clarification I will say again... ...Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress. Yes, a man in a dress is a man in a dress. OK now? What dress wearers hide or display between their legs is no concern of mine. If I am introduced to them as Miss, Ms, Mr, Ann or Fred, that’s probably how I’ll regard them. The only problem is that at 42 years old, I have a few years of (no doubt unintentional) conditioning to contend with. But I’m confident I’ll cope…
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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2023 1:39:16 GMT
What! Did you read my post? Just for clarification I will say again... ...Pat I care not a jot what someone wears, if a man wants to wear a dress so be it. But believe me when I tell you, a woman cannot have a penis and man in a dress is not a woman. He is a man in a dress. Yes, a man in a dress is a man in a dress. OK now? What dress wearers hide or display between their legs is no concern of mine. If I am introduced to them as Miss, Ms, Mr, Ann or Fred, that’s probably how I’ll regard them. The only problem is that at 42 years old, I have a few years of (no doubt unintentional) conditioning to contend with. But I’m confident I’ll cope… I see. So if you were introduced to a strapping prop forward with biceps like Garth and a voice deeper than Barry White, called Susan, you wouldn't bat an eyelid, OK that's fair enough. I concede I may have a quiet giggle but then I've never been politically correct. The point is, it doesn't matter what the politically correct thinking is at the moment it will never alter the fact that the afore mentioned 'Big Sue' will die a man. Science cannot alter a persons biological sex, if you are born male you will die male, and until science discovers a way to alter chromosomes, that is not going to change. So, back to the beginning. Yes a man can wear a dress and if he so chooses call himself Susan. But that doesn't mean he's a woman. It means he is a man, in a dress, called Susan.
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Post by Orac on May 25, 2023 7:56:30 GMT
An inability to talk plainly about basic reality should bar you from office
It doesn't really matter what the subject is. If someone can't talk about plain, everyday reality and make sense, they are either constricted by external pressure or they have a severe mental problem
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Post by patman post on May 25, 2023 9:39:13 GMT
Yes, a man in a dress is a man in a dress. OK now? What dress wearers hide or display between their legs is no concern of mine. If I am introduced to them as Miss, Ms, Mr, Ann or Fred, that’s probably how I’ll regard them. The only problem is that at 42 years old, I have a few years of (no doubt unintentional) conditioning to contend with. But I’m confident I’ll cope… I see. So if you were introduced to a strapping prop forward with biceps like Garth and a voice deeper than Barry White, called Susan, you wouldn't bat an eyelid, OK that's fair enough. I concede I may have a quiet giggle but then I've never been politically correct. The point is, it doesn't matter what the politically correct thinking is at the moment it will never alter the fact that the afore mentioned 'Big Sue' will die a man. Science cannot alter a persons biological sex, if you are born male you will die male, and until science discovers a way to alter chromosomes, that is not going to change. So, back to the beginning. Yes a man can wear a dress and if he so chooses call himself Susan. But that doesn't mean he's a woman. It means he is a man, in a dress, called Susan. OK so I can see that this concerns you more than me. But you still haven’t given me any reason why I should change my mind from when I posted earlier: This whole debate isn't about anything that affects my daily life. I've probably met plenty of people socially and at work whose sexual and gender differences are different from the accepted norm, and I may or may not have realised. But apart from perhaps being entertained by those who make the most of their difference on stage, I can't say the topic has really impacted me. What is it that I'm not understanding about why this is taking up so much of our politicians' time...?
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Post by Bentley on May 25, 2023 9:51:08 GMT
An inability to talk plainly about basic reality should bar you from office It doesn't really matter what the subject is. If someone can't talk about plain, everyday reality and make sense, they are either constricted by external pressure or they have a severe mental problem What he says ^
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2023 11:18:00 GMT
I see. So if you were introduced to a strapping prop forward with biceps like Garth and a voice deeper than Barry White, called Susan, you wouldn't bat an eyelid, OK that's fair enough. I concede I may have a quiet giggle but then I've never been politically correct. The point is, it doesn't matter what the politically correct thinking is at the moment it will never alter the fact that the afore mentioned 'Big Sue' will die a man. Science cannot alter a persons biological sex, if you are born male you will die male, and until science discovers a way to alter chromosomes, that is not going to change. So, back to the beginning. Yes a man can wear a dress and if he so chooses call himself Susan. But that doesn't mean he's a woman. It means he is a man, in a dress, called Susan. OK so I can see that this concerns you more than me. But you still haven’t given me any reason why I should change my mind from when I posted earlier: This whole debate isn't about anything that affects my daily life. I've probably met plenty of people socially and at work whose sexual and gender differences are different from the accepted norm, and I may or may not have realised. But apart from perhaps being entertained by those who make the most of their difference on stage, I can't say the topic has really impacted me. What is it that I'm not understanding about why this is taking up so much of our politicians' time...?
For years women firefighters (supported by their Union) campaigned for single sex changing rooms - their campaign was finally successful. Now they are told they must share them with a bloke in a frock called Dorothy. For years women athletes train day in day out to be the best in their sport - now they have to lose to a guy to a guy who was competing in mens events last year. etc etc Where is the fairness to women?
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