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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2023 19:13:46 GMT
Why is there a shortage of teachers in Blighty now we have these progressive Conservatives?
To answer this question, do please listen to this teacher witness. I think you will be stunned.
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Post by patman post on May 23, 2023 20:46:10 GMT
Listened to this guy interviewed on Times Radio this morning.
I wasn’t totally convinced that he left his Christian proselytizing and beliefs at the door of the maths classroom.
The situation is undoubtedly difficult, but having registered his reservations, surely his duty was to this pupil and the rest of his classes…
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Post by Toreador on May 23, 2023 20:50:27 GMT
I listened to umm about umm five umm minutes and umm gave up.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2023 23:11:24 GMT
Listened to this guy interviewed on Times Radio this morning. I wasn’t totally convinced that he left his Christian proselytizing and beliefs at the door of the maths classroom. The situation is undoubtedly difficult, but having registered his reservations, surely his duty was to this pupil and the rest of his classes… How could you get maths mixed up with theology? The Christian stuff was outside of the classroom, like schools have things like chess clubs and the like. It makes the experience of school a bit broader and human, and is part of our culture. The TRA sound like a bunch of fascists. Making him get lectured by Stonewall was exceptionally out of order. They are a political protest group pretending to be a charity. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 24, 2023 4:58:39 GMT
If he was a Muslim and objecting on religious grounds, would your reaction be the same? (General question not aimed at anybody.)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 9:14:28 GMT
Melanie Phillips writes about the bullying of those who dissent from transgender dogma as being out of control: (I added the bolding).
Two stories from Britain over the last day or so provide more graphic evidence than ever of the terrifying drift into ideological witch-hunting by the nation that once gave political liberty and liberal tolerance to the world.
A Christian mathematics teacher, Joshua Sutcliffe, has been banned indefinitely from the teaching profession for calling girls girls, and for refusing to use the preferred pronoun of a transgender pupil who identified as a boy but to whom he referred as “she” and “her”.
He says:
I believe affirming children in gender confusion in the classroom is psychologically damaging for them. I refuse to go against my conscience and cause a child harm and refuse to apologise for that.
For refusing to go along with the hijack of language and the sacrifice of reason and the interests of children on the altar of ideology, Sutcliffe has had his reputation trashed and has been banned from teaching in any school, sixth form college or children's home in England. He can apply for the ban to be lifted in 2025.
He also commented:
I have been bullied and pursued and have had every part of my life scrutinised for expressing my Christian faith and biological truth.
Once again, we see someone persecuted because his Christian beliefs causes him to dissent from secular liberal dogma.
But this witch-hunt goes far beyond Christians. It’s now targeting people at the very heart of the liberal consensus which is shattering under the impact, along with the reputation and well-being of those being victimised for having a different view — including standing up for the rights of women and the protection of children from harm.
Today’s Mail carries a report of the onslaught upon the chairman of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, Kishwer Falkner, over the transgender issue. After she backed legal reforms protecting the rights of biological women in single-sex spaces such as hospital wards and toilets, commission employees constructed a hit-job against her, a dossier of tendentious complaints and vilification including claims of discrimination, “transphobia”, bullying and harassment. These complaints, which led to an investigation headed by a senior lawyer, have been leaked to the achingly right-on Channel Four News which is reportedly about to run an item on the affair.
This all resembles the tactics of the Soviet Union, the French revolutionaries’ Committee of Public Safety and the Inquisitors of the medieval Catholic church. And this is happening under a Conservative government.
The details of what has happened to both Joshua Sutcliffe and Kishwer Falkner are beyond chilling. ...
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Post by Bentley on May 24, 2023 9:18:27 GMT
If he was a Muslim and objecting on religious grounds, would your reaction be the same? (General question not aimed at anybody.) Yes. Would you? |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2023 9:21:57 GMT
If he was a Muslim and objecting on religious grounds, would your reaction be the same? (General question not aimed at anybody.) How did I know you'd come along ... LOL
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 25, 2023 15:56:25 GMT
If he was a Muslim and objecting on religious grounds, would your reaction be the same? (General question not aimed at anybody.) The honest answer is no. This problem pertains exclusively to the Christian religion. I don't think there is a single teacher even that has had this prejudicial treatment by even being a Jew in Britain, which come close to Christianity. |
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Post by patman post on May 26, 2023 11:06:03 GMT
I don’t believe religious education and instruction should be taught in schools. Nor should any religious belief be allowed to influence school teaching or behaviour instruction.
The historical records of what principals and their adherents got up to over several thousand years are part of history. Collections of fairy tales and legends are probably best studied as folklore and literature along with Beowulf, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc. Morning assemblies are useful, but should not include acts of worship.
Religious instruction should be left to parents and clerics, away from school and out of school hours…
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 26, 2023 11:09:32 GMT
I don’t believe religious education and instruction should be taught in schools. Nor should any religious belief be allowed to influence school teaching or behaviour instruction. The historical records of what principals and their adherents got up to over several thousand years are part of history. Collections of fairy tales and legends are probably best studied as folklore and literature along with Beowulf, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc. Morning assemblies are useful, but should not include acts of worship. Religious instruction should be left to parents and clerics, away from school and out of school hours… That's a case of book burning. The UK's kids are thick enough already without making them thicker by banning education because of your religious beliefs. |
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Post by patman post on May 26, 2023 11:30:42 GMT
I don’t believe religious education and instruction should be taught in schools. Nor should any religious belief be allowed to influence school teaching or behaviour instruction. The historical records of what principals and their adherents got up to over several thousand years are part of history. Collections of fairy tales and legends are probably best studied as folklore and literature along with Beowulf, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc. Morning assemblies are useful, but should not include acts of worship. Religious instruction should be left to parents and clerics, away from school and out of school hours… That's a case of book burning. The UK's kids are thick enough already without making them thicker by banning education because of your religious beliefs. Nobody’s wanting any book burning. But removing religion from the regular teaching grammar maths, science, etc, should give a couple more periods a week to teach useful subjects, and help reduce this thickness you see. Writings in the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, Koran, etc, are interesting and historical guides and should be part of literary studies. But the idea that they are any more guides to life than the Wind in the Willows should not be promoted by schools… |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 26, 2023 11:43:47 GMT
That's a case of book burning. The UK's kids are thick enough already without making them thicker by banning education because of your religious beliefs. Nobody’s wanting any book burning. But removing religion from the regular teaching grammar maths, science, etc, should give a couple more periods a week to teach useful subjects, and help reduce this thickness you see. Writings in the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, Koran, etc, are interesting and historical guides and should be part of literary studies. But the idea that they are any more guides to life than the Wind in the Willows should not be promoted by schools… I semi agree with part of that. I would cut out the social control classes first though and the sex education. That's the responsibility of the parents. However you can not hope to understand history by censoring religion. Not everyone wants to become a mathematician. Some may want to do a humanities degree so they need that part of their curriculum. In this case though the comment is invalid because he said he was teaching it out of school hours. It's like some kids join the scouts and learn all manner of outdoor skills, some might join a choir etc. For these he taught them Christianity. Those who wanted him out are clearly against the religion. They are into all this sexual perversion which Christianity forbids, especially homos and the effeminate man. He is now being used as a test case in a legal challenge. |
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Post by patman post on May 26, 2023 11:57:12 GMT
Nobody’s wanting any book burning. But removing religion from the regular teaching grammar maths, science, etc, should give a couple more periods a week to teach useful subjects, and help reduce this thickness you see. Writings in the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, Koran, etc, are interesting and historical guides and should be part of literary studies. But the idea that they are any more guides to life than the Wind in the Willows should not be promoted by schools… I semi agree with part of that. I would cut out the social control classes first though and the sex education. That's the responsibility of the parents. However you can not hope to understand history by censoring religion. Not everyone wants to become a mathematician. Some may want to do a humanities degree so they need that part of their curriculum. In this case though the comment is invalid because he said he was teaching it out of school hours. It's like some kids join the scouts and learn all manner of outdoor skills, some might join a choir etc. For these he taught them Christianity. Those who wanted him out are clearly against the religion. They are into all this sexual perversion which Christianity forbids, especially homos and the effeminate man. He is now being used as a test case in a legal challenge. It should also be off school premises — unless the particular premises were rented out at that time by a group for its religious purposes. Choir, dramatics, scouts, stamp collecting, etc, can all be secular out of school activities… |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 26, 2023 12:17:18 GMT
I semi agree with part of that. I would cut out the social control classes first though and the sex education. That's the responsibility of the parents. However you can not hope to understand history by censoring religion. Not everyone wants to become a mathematician. Some may want to do a humanities degree so they need that part of their curriculum. In this case though the comment is invalid because he said he was teaching it out of school hours. It's like some kids join the scouts and learn all manner of outdoor skills, some might join a choir etc. For these he taught them Christianity. Those who wanted him out are clearly against the religion. They are into all this sexual perversion which Christianity forbids, especially homos and the effeminate man. He is now being used as a test case in a legal challenge. It should also be off school premises — unless the particular premises were rented out at that time by a group for its religious purposes. Choir, dramatics, scouts, stamp collecting, etc, can all be secular out of school activities… What about the thousands of schools founded by the church? They have been measured to give better performance in the other subjects than their secular counterparts. It seems to me you just want to dictate like the TRA does. |
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