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May 23, 2023 16:03:17 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 16:03:17 GMT
I'm not a fan of the pitch fork brigade. He didn’t have a pitchfork. Try again . I never said he did, you seem to be misreading. You asked me a question, I responded directly to your question, about the principle, not the event. |
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May 23, 2023 16:08:00 GMT
Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 16:08:00 GMT
He didn’t have a pitchfork. Try again . I never said he did, you seem to be misreading. You asked me a question, I responded directly to your question, about the principle, not the event. I’m sorry I thought it was you that mentioned pitch fork …and I was right . You just mentioned pitch fork so that you could deny its significance ? So how about actually answering the question ? |
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May 23, 2023 16:08:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 16:08:01 GMT
He assaulted a member of the public. He was the victim of law breakers, they were committing a crime and he was defending himself.
It is illegal to obstruct the road. If somebody unlawfully assumes ownership of areas of a road, they are breaking the law. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a road, they are also guilty of an offence.
We only witnessed the police arresting the victim of a criminal offense.
That is no excuse for an assault. There was a long queue at Tesco today but no one assault those in the front. |
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May 23, 2023 16:09:40 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 16:09:40 GMT
He didn’t have a pitchfork. Try again . I never said he did, you seem to be misreading. You asked me a question, I responded directly to your question, about the principle, not the event. Just look at 'Knollsy' he's being hailed a hero, and rightly so, he was defending himself and others against law breakers, and there were hundreds of cops round the stadium, he wasn't arrested, because he was doing the job of the police, just like the victim of these law breaking protesters. |
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May 23, 2023 16:09:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 16:09:52 GMT
If people are 'allowed' to assault those 'they' think are causing a nuisance we are all in trouble.
Ticket staff at venues going to slow, buses being 10 mins late, ....................
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Post by Toreador on May 23, 2023 16:10:19 GMT
He was the victim of law breakers, they were committing a crime and he was defending himself.
It is illegal to obstruct the road. If somebody unlawfully assumes ownership of areas of a road, they are breaking the law. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a road, they are also guilty of an offence.
We only witnessed the police arresting the victim of a criminal offense.
That is no excuse for an assault. There was a long queue at Tesco today but no one assault those in the front. Ye gods, is that your best shot? |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 16:10:45 GMT
He was the victim of law breakers, they were committing a crime and he was defending himself.
It is illegal to obstruct the road. If somebody unlawfully assumes ownership of areas of a road, they are breaking the law. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a road, they are also guilty of an offence.
We only witnessed the police arresting the victim of a criminal offense.
That is no excuse for an assault. There was a long queue at Tesco today but no one assault those in the front. Ifa group was deliberately blocking the doorway and you moved them out of the way then it would be justified . Don’t get me wrong , I’m sure that you would curl up in a ball and cry but others might want to resolve the situation. |
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May 23, 2023 16:11:36 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 16:11:36 GMT
He was the victim of law breakers, they were committing a crime and he was defending himself.
It is illegal to obstruct the road. If somebody unlawfully assumes ownership of areas of a road, they are breaking the law. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a road, they are also guilty of an offence.
We only witnessed the police arresting the victim of a criminal offense.
That is no excuse for an assault. There was a long queue at Tesco today but no one assault those in the front. So the 'queue' was in the middle of main highway or motorway? trust you to post a stupid comment, since when have people forming a queue for a supermarket been law breakers? |
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May 23, 2023 16:13:56 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 16:13:56 GMT
That is no excuse for an assault. There was a long queue at Tesco today but no one assault those in the front. Ifa group was deliberately blocking the doorway and you moved them out of the way then it would be justified . Don’t get me wrong , I’m sure that you would curl up in a ball and cry but others might want to resolve the situation. LOL |
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May 23, 2023 16:24:37 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 16:24:37 GMT
I never said he did, you seem to be misreading. You asked me a question, I responded directly to your question, about the principle, not the event. I’m sorry I thought it was you that mentioned pitch fork …and I was right . You just mentioned pitch fork so that you could deny its significance ? So how about actually answering the question ? I did indeed. But your question was about why I don't condone the direct actions of the public. As I said, I'm not in favour of the pitch fork brigade. How you interpreted that as me saying he had a pitchfork, or that I didn't answer your question is beyond me. |
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May 23, 2023 16:37:48 GMT
Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 16:37:48 GMT
I’m sorry I thought it was you that mentioned pitch fork …and I was right . You just mentioned pitch fork so that you could deny its significance ? So how about actually answering the question ? I did indeed. But your question was about why I don't condone the direct actions of the public. As I said, I'm not in favour of the pitch fork brigade. How you interpreted that as me saying he had a pitchfork, or that I didn't answer your question is beyond me. How you thought that using the word pitchfork would make your answer anything less than gibberish is beyond me . The phrase ‘ pitchfork brigade ‘ doesn’t define direct actions of the public anyway. TBH I suspect quite a lot of things are beyond you . |
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May 23, 2023 16:40:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 16:40:00 GMT
I’m sorry I thought it was you that mentioned pitch fork …and I was right . You just mentioned pitch fork so that you could deny its significance ? So how about actually answering the question ? I did indeed. But your question was about why I don't condone the direct actions of the public. As I said, I'm not in favour of the pitch fork brigade. How you interpreted that as me saying he had a pitchfork, or that I didn't answer your question is beyond me. Yes, but not in favour is a meaningless position under the circumstances. I doubt anyone on this thread would support it as the best option. The issue is that the best option is supporting the right to profit on intentional distruption by those taking the law into their own hands. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 16:51:50 GMT
I did indeed. But your question was about why I don't condone the direct actions of the public. As I said, I'm not in favour of the pitch fork brigade. How you interpreted that as me saying he had a pitchfork, or that I didn't answer your question is beyond me. Yes, but not in favour is a meaningless position under the circumstances. I doubt anyone on this thread would support it as the best option. The issue is that the best option is supporting the right to profit on intentional distruption by those taking the law into their own hands. I believe that the public taking things into their own hands and removing the anti social individuals from the road is by far the best option when the police refuse to do it. |
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May 23, 2023 16:58:52 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 16:58:52 GMT
Yes, but not in favour is a meaningless position under the circumstances. I doubt anyone on this thread would support it as the best option. The issue is that the best option is supporting the right to profit on intentional distruption by those taking the law into their own hands. I believe that the public taking things into their own hands and removing the anti social individuals from the road is by far the best option when the police refuse to do it. Correct, self-policing, we'll see a lot more of it. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 17:00:43 GMT
How long before the guy who was arrested is called extreme right wing ?
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