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May 23, 2023 15:34:46 GMT
Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2023 15:34:46 GMT
Vigilantism is meating out punishment. Not moving a criminal out of the way.
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May 23, 2023 15:35:58 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 15:35:58 GMT
He was actually doing the work of the police, and I hope he sends the Met a bill for his services. So, you've changed your mind and realised that it's not "self defence". anyone can make a citizens arrest, the police can use reasonable force, and when a member of the public has to assume the role of the police then he was defending his lawful right to go about his business without being unlawfully stopped from doing so. |
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May 23, 2023 15:39:32 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 15:39:32 GMT
That is not self defence.
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May 23, 2023 15:39:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 15:39:52 GMT
But you do have the right to use reasonable force to prevent an offence.
That's what he was doing, whether the police like it or not.
But not vigilante. We know rich Americans are donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars to Stop Oil activists, while the police assist Stop Oil to prevent the working man going about their business. If anyone attempts to move them they'll be arrested.
What other alternative is there?
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May 23, 2023 15:40:16 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2023 15:40:16 GMT
But you do have the right to use reasonable force to prevent an offence.
That's what he was doing, whether the police like it or not.
But not vigilante. so now you are saying this victim was purposely there to attack these protesters?, that's what 'vigilante's' do.
He was 'innocently' caught up in a criminal activity, and on the spare of the moment responded accordingly, no vigilante about it.
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May 23, 2023 15:41:46 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 15:41:46 GMT
We know rich Americans are donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars to Stop Oil activists, while the police assist Stop Oil to prevent the working man going about their business. If anyone attempts to move them they'll be arrested.
What other alternative is there?
like I say, I'm not condoning the protest, but I also can't condone the public taking action on their own either. |
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May 23, 2023 15:42:12 GMT
Post by Vinny on May 23, 2023 15:42:12 GMT
Should have turned up with diesel powered Transit vans, or preferably something even bigger, chucked the lot of them in the back, and driven them the long way round to the Police Station, going through one of Khan's ULEZ's, for processing of their arrest.
Then put them on trial for Public Nuisance and give them 12 months each.
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May 23, 2023 15:42:20 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2023 15:42:20 GMT
That is not self defence. It's not vigilantism either. |
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May 23, 2023 15:43:14 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 15:43:14 GMT
so now you are saying this victim was purposely there to attack these protesters?, that's what 'vigilante's' do.
He was 'innocently' caught up in a criminal activity, and on the spare of the moment responded accordingly, no vigilante about it.
You saying that there is no such thing as a reactive vigilante moment? |
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May 23, 2023 15:43:45 GMT
Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 15:43:45 GMT
We know rich Americans are donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars to Stop Oil activists, while the police assist Stop Oil to prevent the working man going about their business. If anyone attempts to move them they'll be arrested.
What other alternative is there?
like I say, I'm not condoning the protest, but I also can't condone the public taking action on their own either. Why not? |
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May 23, 2023 15:48:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 15:48:27 GMT
We know rich Americans are donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars to Stop Oil activists, while the police assist Stop Oil to prevent the working man going about their business. If anyone attempts to move them they'll be arrested.
What other alternative is there?
like I say, I'm not condoning the protest, but I also can't condone the public taking action on their own either. But isn't this what Stop Oil are doing with police support? Their only objective is to cause disruption and get on the TV, which results in them getting more money from foreign sponsors.
If this was a planned and approved protest (with diversion routes to minimise disruption) by those Labour consider undesirable they'd have glass bottles thrown at them.
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May 23, 2023 15:58:58 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2023 15:58:58 GMT
like I say, I'm not condoning the protest, but I also can't condone the public taking action on their own either. Why not? I'm not a fan of the pitch fork brigade. |
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May 23, 2023 15:59:23 GMT
Post by Red Rackham on May 23, 2023 15:59:23 GMT
So it's OK to assault someone if you don't like what they are doing? I can't believe that people have just written that on a political forum. Assault! Do you really think the left wing antisocial moron was 'assaulted'? It's certainly not what any sensible person would describe as assault. However, the left wing woke police are as ever to blame. It's against the law to block the public highway and to stop people going about their lawful business. It should not be unduly difficult for any court to come to the conclusion that the police are incompetent and should be sacked. |
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May 23, 2023 15:59:44 GMT
Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 15:59:44 GMT
I'm not a fan of the pitch fork brigade. He didn’t have a pitchfork. Try again . |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 16:03:05 GMT
Anti social group blocks road . Members of public remove members of anti social group from road.
Society working at its best . Thats why lefties hate it .
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