The boys are out in Cardiff.

And now it appears the cctv does show them being pursued.

Apparently the locals believe they bully their kids want an abject apology,sorry but they’re not kids 15 and 16 are youths and if them innocently playing on their illegal high speed bikes then run an actual kid down who will they blame? That’s right the cops for not stopping them.

who in their right minds buy their offspring these things knowing the possible consequences?

How very dare you. The modern all inclusive multiculturally diverse police force are very busy virtue signalling, providing drinks for eco dickheads who block roads and arresting people who may have caused offence on Twitter.

I bet they stand with their backs to the wall.

Dunno John new footage then shows the police so far behind its not a pursuit,in any eventI don’t see how the cops are at fault

Ok in response to the last two

Red, this wasn’t an e scooter like the things you can legally hire in Bristol, it was a full electric bike, and from the cctv i have seen it looks very similar to the ones deliveroo and just eat gig economy tax fiddlers round here use. They have power trains capable of sustaining 50mph and as the witness that surfaced yesterday who claimed the van WAS chasing the boys said tbe van driver was having trouble controlling it round the bend i think it’s pretty obvious from that, AND the cctv on public view the bike is going well over the e-scooter legal speed limit of 19mph

Like Terry Pratchett i’d seen numerous corpses by my 18th some who became corpses before my very eyes. One in particular was a twat of a lycraboy on a racing pushbike who undertook me at the A470 / A48 gabalfa interchange in Cardiff as we bith joined the A48 Eastern Avenue. He pedalled at an insane speed down the on ramp entered the hard shoulder lane and with his head down looking at the road went head first jnto the back of a ready mixed concrete lorry broken down with a flat about 50 yards down the dual carriageway stopped in the hard shoulder

I was in traffic joining the carriageway.he was on my left. I was foung about 40 and accelerating hard, he was at the time actually pulling ahead of me because it’s a decent dowhill on ramp

His head literally cracked apart right in front of me. No helmet this was the 70’s

These kids were riding an electric bike in total violation of any sense both of them on the same bike somehow, at speed. The incident that killed them happenned at a junction. No other vehicle was involved according to the crew that responded from cowbridge road west

I know the area quite well it’s just down the road from where Moira used to live. It’s a wide dual carriageway with traffic lights and tvese days about 20 speed cameras not that this would concernnan illegal, unplated electric vehicle

I think the media are deliberately failing to state tbe bleeding obvious, that these two were riding an illegal vehicle in an illegal manner at an illegal speed inna built up area and frankly have only themselves to blame for their demise.

Assholes ride similar vehicles in Newport in ways that would get me banned multiple times over if i rode my real motorbike like it.

This was an inevitability caused by labour councils happy to turn a blind eye to insane riding in the name if forcing the government to give in and make these fucking death traps legal to be ridden with no training no road sense no PPE no insurance and absolutely no fear of being banged up.

The scum riding them should be taken out by armed response before their unbelieveable antics cause the death of a legitimate road user

And the twat inntbe wrlsh assembly formerly the head of sustrans who us behind labour’s refusal to apply the law should be fed alive to the Ely rioters fighting digs

I guess we don’t have the full story — that should come out at an inquiry or inquest. But there is the following information from the Department of Transport:

Based on provisional data, in 2022:

* there were 1,369 collisions involving e-scooters, compared to 1,352 in 2021
* of all collisions involving e-scooters, 342 included only one e-scooter with no other vehicles involved in the collision (single vehicle collision), compared to 324 in 2021
* there were 1,458 casualties in collisions involving e-scooters, compared to 1,434 in 2021
* of all casualties in collisions involving e-scooters, 1,117 were e-scooter users, compared to 1,102 in 2021
* there were 12 killed in collisions involving e-scooters (11 of whom were e-scooter riders) compared to 10 in 2021
* our best estimate, after adjusting for changes in reporting by police, is that there were 421 seriously injured and 1,025 slightly injured in collisions involving e-scooters, this compares to 418 and 1,006 respectively in 2021

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-e-scooter-factsheet-2022/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-e-scooter-factsheet-2022

These provisional stats appear to show the use of e-scooters is increasing. Personal observation from regularly travelling around Hackney, Islington and into central London supports that appearance. 

The other observation is that these e-scooters (stand-on and sit-on) can go faster than the 20mph limits widely being imposed on roads in London, but riders don’t need to be licensed or the machines to have a reg.

One problem could be that many pedal cyclists have migrated to e-scooters and e-bikes and treat the Highway Code just as the pedal cyclists often do and regard it as a quaint document that doesn’t apply to them. They ignore red lights, pedestrian crossings, pedestrian only walkways, one way streets, etc.

Why are these road users allowed to flout the rules and regulations other powered vehicles and drivers are punished for not following…?

As John has said its not a E Scooter it an Electric Bike IMHO an off road one, and not meant to carry two, yes the bike was picked up on a house CCTV followed by a Police Van , no blues or twos how according to the media both doing 28 mph how they got that figure no idea.

As John has pointed out its a rough estate usual antisocial  behaviour drugs, again according to the media the Police have been clamping down on youths riding on scooters, motorbikes, e bikes etc , in that area 

In the media were two photographs  of the boys one of them is holding a large spliff , perhaps the boys were high at the time who knows , 

The boys on the E Bike turned off and down a street or alleyway with bollards to stop vehicles going down it so even if the Police were following them or about to stop them or try to they could not follow them, as the Senior Police Officer stated after the tragic accident the Police Vehicles can be tracked , no Police vehicle was in the street at the time when the boys died, according to the media it was 900 meters away in another street, unless other information evidence to prove otherwise IMHO a tragic accident they fell of.


Rumour control took over then and the Police were attacked 15 of them injured 11 of them taken to hospital , even a member of the public a man was attacked as the rioters thought he was a plain clothes Cop