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Post by wapentake on May 21, 2023 21:06:58 GMT
I got done last year,tailgater and stupidly I went faster because there was nowhere else to go and the prat just increased and sat on my **** I suspect they were that close their plate wasn’t read and so they got away with it,no biggie I did the course better than points I had a clean licence. Did you learn anything? Yeah try to not get caught. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 21:49:40 GMT
I got done last year,tailgater and stupidly I went faster because there was nowhere else to go and the prat just increased and sat on my **** I suspect they were that close their plate wasn’t read and so they got away with it,no biggie I did the course better than points I had a clean licence. I'm not proud to say that over the years I've done some pretty stupid things while behind the wheel, I suppose this is what comes of having no patience, or some might say a quick temper. And yet I've never had so much as a parking ticket, completely clean licence for 44 years. Obviously more luck than judgment and I know that on occasions I have been very lucky, and I'm very aware that you should never ride your luck. Edit: clean licence for 45 years. |
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 21:54:07 GMT
I’ve been on two speed awareness courses. She was right to ask for one without other people.
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Post by Pacifico on May 21, 2023 22:01:03 GMT
Who are civil servants.. So you can ask one lot of civil servants a question but not ask another lot the same question... Yes - definitely a sackable offence...  A Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) is a document sent by the Police to the vehicle's registered keeper following a speeding offence. It details the offence and contains instructions on what to do next.
Police, along with teachers, NHS staff, members of the armed forces and local government officers, are not counted as civil servants...
OK - I'll rephrase - you can ask one public sector worker a question but cannot ask another public sector worker the same question without it being a sacking offence.. Personally I think you are dancing the flamingo on the head of a pin. |
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Post by wapentake on May 21, 2023 22:29:18 GMT
A Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) is a document sent by the Police to the vehicle's registered keeper following a speeding offence. It details the offence and contains instructions on what to do next.
Police, along with teachers, NHS staff, members of the armed forces and local government officers, are not counted as civil servants...
OK - I'll rephrase - you can ask one public sector worker a question but cannot ask another public sector worker the same question without it being a sacking offence.. Personally I think you are dancing the flamingo on the head of a pin. Your surname isn’t malaprop is it?  |
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Post by dodgydave on May 21, 2023 23:41:53 GMT
When I first saw the headlines I was happy at the thought of her being sacked because I find her roleplaying quite bizarre.
However, as the details are emerging, I find myself wondering what the fuss is about. A high profile politician enquired about the possibility of having a one-on-one course because she didn't want to sit in a room getting dogs abuse from other participants... hardly a story is it?
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2023 0:08:23 GMT
Interestingly, I'm currently listening to lawyer Nick Freeman otherwise known as Mr Loophole, on GB News. He says he has arranged many one to one, or private speed awareness courses for 'celebrity' clients. In his opinion this is politically motivated and Braverman did nothing that could possibly be construed as legally wrong. Then Braverman should perhaps have used a private solicitor to sound out the possibility of a one-to-one rather than asking Home Office civil service staff to arrange her personal affairs. She might be calling on Mr Freeman’s services to extricate her from this current ethics breach… |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2023 0:27:54 GMT
What the fuck is going on? Is it me or the forum?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2023 0:31:49 GMT
What the fuck is going on? Is it me or the forum? Not to worry, where were we. Just for interest, when I pressed the create post button had 'Error code' in large letters splashed across my screen. Never seen that before. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2023 0:34:45 GMT
Interestingly, I'm currently listening to lawyer Nick Freeman otherwise known as Mr Loophole, on GB News. He says he has arranged many one to one, or private speed awareness courses for 'celebrity' clients. In his opinion this is politically motivated and Braverman did nothing that could possibly be construed as legally wrong. Then Braverman should perhaps have used a private solicitor to sound out the possibility of a one-to-one rather than asking Home Office civil service staff to arrange her personal affairs. She might be calling on Mr Freeman’s services to extricate her from this current ethics breach… Why? I mean why shouldn't the Home Secretary enjoy the same anonymity as some 'celebrity', I would have thought on security grounds alone it was a no brainer. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2023 1:36:02 GMT
When I first saw the headlines I was happy at the thought of her being sacked because I find her roleplaying quite bizarre. However, as the details are emerging, I find myself wondering what the fuss is about. A high profile politician enquired about the possibility of having a one-on-one course because she didn't want to sit in a room getting dogs abuse from other participants... hardly a story is it? I quite agree, but then, you're not an outraged lefty. |
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Post by wapentake on May 22, 2023 4:33:40 GMT
When I first saw the headlines I was happy at the thought of her being sacked because I find her roleplaying quite bizarre. However, as the details are emerging, I find myself wondering what the fuss is about. A high profile politician enquired about the possibility of having a one-on-one course because she didn't want to sit in a room getting dogs abuse from other participants... hardly a story is it? Sit in a room ? What are you on about you can do it online as I did last year you only see others faces fleetingly and only first names used. You are warned that any abuse of the person running the course or others and you will be removed with immediate effect,also that any recording of the proceedings and subsequent use on social media or elsewhere and you will be pursued in the courts. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 5:40:18 GMT
It certainly is not the crime of the century, you do exaggerate, rather a typical Tory attempting to do what the rest of us would be prosecuted for. I very much doubt you would be prosecuted for asking for a one to one speed awareness course. You may get laughed at, but I doubt you would be prosecuted. It's who you ask, surely. To use your 'power' over your subordinates is corrupt and corruption is a prosecutable offence. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 5:41:16 GMT
She did not want to go because she may have been recognised, she tried to get the civil service to organise a 'one to one', that is the problem. Why is asking for that that a problem? You could not use the same excuse. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 5:44:25 GMT
With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
She wanted to know if she could do a private awareness course - if she shouldn't have asked the Civil Servents who should she have asked? The civil service is not there to sort out a ministers personal problems they are there to serve the county's needs. Braverman, may have used her position as their 'boss' to get special treatment not available to the man in the street. |
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