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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 11:48:58 GMT
Is it right for a 'citizen' of this country to attempt, using a position of power, to avoid paying a speeding fine? She didn't. She did. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 11:56:42 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. |
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 12:44:23 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 13:01:30 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
And how typical of Labour to demand an inquiry, lol. |
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 13:08:12 GMT
With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
And how typical of Labour to demand an inquiry, lol. I don't see why an inquiry should be necessary. If she did it, HoC Standards Committee should reprimand and apply the appropriate sanction... |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 13:33:27 GMT
And how typical of Labour to demand an inquiry, lol. I don't see why an inquiry should be necessary. If she did it, HoC Standards Committee should reprimand and apply the appropriate sanction... Again, this poses the question of how impartial is the 'left wing' civil service? Braverman's speeding offence was last year, yet someone in the civil service has for whatever reason decided to leak it now. Perhaps it's designed to take the spotlight off Sunak who is at the moment on a global stage. If any inquiry is required, it should be looking at the staggeringly obvious lack of impartiality of the left leaning civil service. In fact such an inquiry should have happened after it was discovered that behind the scenes Starmer and Sue Gray were in secret talks. |
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Post by patman post on May 21, 2023 13:43:12 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 14:01:28 GMT
Indeed, but Labour are calling for an 'independent' inquiry, I did hear the name of a person they suggested should head such an inquiry, no one I've ever heard of and offhand I cant recall it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 14:23:34 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. It certainly is not the crime of the century, you do exaggerate, rather a typical Tory attempting to do what the rest of us would be prosecuted for. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 14:24:50 GMT
With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
And how typical of Labour to demand an inquiry, lol. You don't see misuse of power in office as something that should be investigate unless it's Labour, of course. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 14:27:53 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. It certainly is not the crime of the century, you do exaggerate, rather a typical Tory attempting to do what the rest of us would be prosecuted for. I very much doubt you would be prosecuted for asking for a one to one speed awareness course. You may get laughed at, but I doubt you would be prosecuted. |
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Post by Orac on May 21, 2023 15:49:49 GMT
another load of gibberish from the civil service.
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Post by Bentley on May 21, 2023 15:58:40 GMT
Red Rum I don't think it would be. Although under the circumstances of the offence in question, even if you don't have a position of power, it appears you are offered the choice of avoiding paying a fine by completing a course instead. The option is there to choose one or the other, as Braverman did after she evaluated and considered the implications of both choices. She did not want to go because she may have been recognised, she tried to get the civil service to organise a 'one to one', that is the problem. Why is asking for that that a problem? |
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Post by Pacifico on May 21, 2023 16:41:54 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on May 21, 2023 16:43:39 GMT
Ahh, I wondered when this would come up. Tbh, if you're a sensible Tory voter this will be a storm in a tea cup. If you're an outraged lefty this will be crime of the century. Who knew. With all the confusingly applied speed limits being applied to the roads, exceeding the limit by a few mph is increasingly easy. The option of a "speed awareness course" might be interpreted as a recognition of this. It's certainly not a major offence.
Where Home Secretary, Braverman, apparently went wrong was to use her position to try and get her civil servants to get her a private or one-to-one course rather than attending a class where she could be recognised. That wasn't possible, so she paid the fine and got the points — plus the opprobrium of trying to use the civil service for a personal matter...
She wanted to know if she could do a private awareness course - if she shouldn't have asked the Civil Servents who should she have asked? |
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