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Post by see2 on May 27, 2023 6:54:54 GMT
It is simply irrational to blame the French or even the 'unelected dictators in Brussels' for the shambles that passes for immigration policy in Britain. It is a problem that is entirely self-inflicted (and always has been) I agree except there are no "unelected dictators in Brussels", and now that we are out of the EU there is no point in repeating this misinformation. |
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 6:58:04 GMT
It is simply irrational to blame the French or even the 'unelected dictators in Brussels' for the shambles that passes for immigration policy in Britain. It is a problem that is entirely self-inflicted (and always has been) I agree except there are no "unelected dictators in Brussels", and now that we are out of the EU there is no point in repeating this misinformation. On the somehow pretence that we vote for our leaders and they choose the Brussels unelected leaders. What sort of Baloney is that in the first place? |
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2023 6:59:04 GMT
It is simply irrational to blame the French or even the 'unelected dictators in Brussels' for the shambles that passes for immigration policy in Britain. It is a problem that is entirely self-inflicted (and always has been) Makes complete sense to blame the French. They are unable to control their borders and it in turn is making it difficult for the UK to control its borders. Perfectly reasonable for the UK to inform France that it either controls its borders or the UK will declare it a failed state and send 'peacekeeping troops' to secure it for them. UK government needs to stop giving France money, send in the troops, and mine the beaches from Dunkirk to Cherbourg. About time the UK was at war with France again. Its been way too long since the last one and it is well overdue. While I suspect your post was 'tongue in cheek' why would France want to stop illegal migrants or asylum seekers from leaving their country? Would the UK want to stop such people from leaving the UK? |
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2023 7:10:27 GMT
I agree except there are no "unelected dictators in Brussels", and now that we are out of the EU there is no point in repeating this misinformation. On the somehow pretence that we vote for our leaders and they choose the Brussels unelected leaders. What sort of Baloney is that in the first place? To my knowledge he Commission are the only unelected body in the EU (made up of important members of EU member states) They firstly have to be accepted by the EU, but along with their Civil Servants, they have no power to pass any new laws. The only power they do have is to see that countries abide by the rules and laws already set by the EU. The EU parliament, all elected, have the final word on any new laws that the committee have allowed to come along. BYE. |
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 7:11:37 GMT
On the somehow pretence that we vote for our leaders and they choose the Brussels unelected leaders. What sort of Baloney is that in the first place? To my knowledge he Commission are the only unelected body in the EU (made up of important members of EU member states) They firstly have to be accepted by the EU, but along with their Civil Servants, they have no power to pass any new laws. The only power they do have is to see that countries abide by the rules and laws already set by the EU. The EU parliament, all elected, have the final word on any new laws that come along. BYE. Told you pure pretence, they are unelected because nobody voted for them. Not that it even matters how you use your vote anyway, you will be voting for more of the same. |
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Post by Toreador on May 27, 2023 7:41:29 GMT
It is simply irrational to blame the French or even the 'unelected dictators in Brussels' for the shambles that passes for immigration policy in Britain. It is a problem that is entirely self-inflicted (and always has been) I agree except there are no "unelected dictators in Brussels", and now that we are out of the EU there is no point in repeating this misinformation. Oh dear. There is a thread on here complaining about the number of anti-leaving the EU threads. Can you have a word with them by pointing out we have left and there is no point in repeating this. |
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Post by Bentley on May 27, 2023 12:56:44 GMT
You seem to be confused . Individuals are not nations . But laws apply to nations too. They are internationally agreed laws signed up to by the UK. Leaders who have broken international laws have in the past been hanged or imprisoned for it. Yes laws apply to nations but a national governments function is to serve the interests of the nation it represents. If an international law is demonstrably against the interests of the nation then imo unless there is compelling evidence of an existential risk to other nations then the law should be rescinded. |
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 14:09:34 GMT
You have been warned reminded of when Cameron said if we were to keep following democracy, they would cause a war and it would be all our fault, which I replied well we will all go together then and not if we get you first, erm!
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