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Post by Red Rackham on May 19, 2023 1:26:17 GMT
The experts say, no we are not. Apparently AI is comming at us like a freight train, it will create millions of job losses yet business and government are unprepared for it. youtu.be/XLvrXTdKtOMAs an aside, I think I may have spoken to an AI 'person'. I occasionally phone my bank to check up on things, I don't do online banking. I almost always speak to someone with an accent, for some reason usually Irish or Scottish. However, the last time I called I spoke to a chap who I wasn't entirely comfortable with. He had no accent, no change in tone, he was completely neutral and it was very unnatural. The information he gave me was as expected so I didn't give it another thought. Until I listened to an item on the radio earlier, and saw the above clip.
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Post by sheepy on May 19, 2023 6:53:30 GMT
It has been introduced slowly for decades under the form of progress, the progress being less need of manual labour or human interaction and the ultimate weapon of the globalist corporation. Which although they are making money hand over fist, it will soon be realised they no longer run the corporation but AI will. What will be the point of human beings anyway, they will make themselves redundant.
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Post by Pacifico on May 19, 2023 6:59:05 GMT
There is currently a lot of hysteria about AI but I doubt it will ever become as good and effective as its promoters and detractors suggest. My experience of using call centres that use AI is that they just dont work - they might understand that you want a statement but anything more complex is totally out of their understanding. I usually ask to speak to a human being and that totally flummoxes the computer.
I think that AI is rather like 5G - its backers have invested a lot of hype in it but its real-world use is severely limited.
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Post by sheepy on May 19, 2023 7:30:50 GMT
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Post by walterpaisley on May 19, 2023 7:46:28 GMT
My favourite AI story at the moment is the "AI Skin Cancer" business.
You want a computer to detect skin cancers? Nothing easier..
Just upload millions of photos of lesions, moles, and blobs, and let your Amstrad know which ones have been found to be cancerous, and before long it'll be able to look at a picture and "know" whether it's looking at something dodgy or not.
You know the biggest single visual indicator of whether you've got skin cancer?
The RULER next to the growth.
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Post by Orac on May 19, 2023 7:56:11 GMT
I fear some are being over-optimistic. I think we are now about 20 years ahead of where I thought we would be now 3 years ago.
I do mean optimistic, because i do think the notion that this development is not that meaningful is the optimistic view.
It's possible to come up with AI howlers, but humans also create a lot of mirth when they are a few months old
Think of this thing like a baby - you probably have about 7 years before it starts being really naughty and answering you back.
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Post by sheepy on May 19, 2023 8:00:22 GMT
I fear some are being over-optimistic. I think we are now about 20 years ahead of where I thought we would be now 3 years ago. I do mean optimistic, because i do think the notion that this development is not that meaningful is the optimistic view. It's possible to come up with AI howlers, but humans also create a lot of mirth when they are a few months old Think of this thing like a baby - you probably have about 7 years before it starts being really naughty and answering you back. That reminded of the circulating stories that the new kids on the block were the future and they would be running the world in a short time of the Earths rotations, Eh? not a chance in hell.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 19, 2023 8:24:14 GMT
That reminded of the circulating stories that the new kids on the block were the future and they would be running the world in a short time of the Earths rotations.. Not a chance. They were never the same after Mark Wahlberg left.
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Post by dodgydave on May 19, 2023 12:52:53 GMT
Technology advances faster and faster when humans are inventing it.
Can you imagine the pace of change when computers are doing the inventing?
Personally, I don't fear AI taking all our jobs, I think it will be weaponised before then resulting in WW3.
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Post by Orac on May 19, 2023 13:22:14 GMT
We can sensibly assume we are already in a war.
The potential wont have escaped any major player's attention.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 19, 2023 14:29:44 GMT
An article in the BBC’s Culture file talks about the films now being made which give a whole meaning to the term ‘direct to video’. Who needs AI when the creative talent employed by the big streamers can already turn out this dross? “…When directors are promoting their films, they usually talk about how happy they are to have put their own personal vision on screen. Not so Dexter Fletcher, when he was promoting Ghosted, an Apple TV+ action comedy starring Chris Evans and Ana de Armas. Discussing the film on Alex Zane's A Trip to the Movies podcast, Fletcher mentioned his plans for an opening sequence in which De Armas would drive through the mountains for three minutes. Executives at Apple Studios vetoed the sequence because, they said, if "something doesn't happen in the first 30 seconds, the data shows that people will turn off". So now we know. Streaming enables our viewing habits to be monitored more closely than ever before, so while traditionally made films still end up on Netflix, Prime Video, Apple TV+ and other streaming services, there is a whole new wave of films being precision engineered according to previously unavailable "data" and "metrics": shiny, big-budget updates of what were once termed "direct-to-video" movies. The most important statistical category, said Fletcher, is "completion", meaning the number of viewers who watch a film from start to finish. Apparently, Ghosted hit "a really high number" in that category, and so Apple Studios chalked it up as a triumph. But did the data improve the film in any other respect? A one-star review in The Guardian condemned it as "content dictated by algorithm at its absolute, industry-shaming worst, so carelessly and lifelessly cobbled together that we're inclined to believe it's the first film created entirely by AI". And this review wasn't unusual. On Rotten Tomatoes, the website that tallies positive and negative reviews, Ghosted scored 28%, a figure that seems all the more pitiful considering the four previous films directed by Fletcher – Rocketman, Eddie the Eagle, Sunshine on Leith and Wild Bill – all scored between 81 and 100%. Direct-to-streaming movies might keep us on the sofa and away from the remote control, but that doesn't mean they are any good.” www.bbc.com/culture/article/20230504-ghosted-the-films-too-bad-for-the-cinema
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Post by Orac on May 19, 2023 14:42:27 GMT
A second by second heuristic examination of viewing will allow an Ai to provide a statistical analysis of a film's likely success based on its similarity to other films
This will allow the film industry to produce better films almost without effort, tedium or risk. The technique is already used to great effect by the music industry.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2023 15:42:41 GMT
I fear some are being over-optimistic. I think we are now about 20 years ahead of where I thought we would be now 3 years ago. I do mean optimistic, because i do think the notion that this development is not that meaningful is the optimistic view. It's possible to come up with AI howlers, but humans also create a lot of mirth when they are a few months old Think of this thing like a baby - you probably have about 7 years before it starts being really naughty and answering you back. That reminded of the circulating stories that the new kids on the block were the future and they would be running the world in a short time of the Earths rotations, Eh? not a chance in hell. I thought the clever kids had run away from the projects with their tails between their legs. Strikes me they know it is likely to go tits up.
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Post by Ripley on May 19, 2023 15:46:58 GMT
I fear that AI is here to stay and will become like nuclear power in the sense that no large nation will voluntarily curtail its development for fear their enemies will get ahead of them and successfully use it against them.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 19, 2023 16:11:10 GMT
A second by second heuristic examination of viewing will allow an Ai to provide a statistical analysis of a film's likely success based on its similarity to other films This will allow the film industry to produce better films almost without effort, tedium or risk. The technique is already used to great effect by the music industry.
But will produce films that are substantially all the same.
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