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Post by Orac on May 20, 2023 10:30:05 GMT
Well it seems there are suddenly a few very shaken people by AI. Strange that most of them were thinking how wonderful it was such a short time ago. A sober and informed evaluation of the situation, performed 4 years ago, would have concluded that there really isn't an issue, nor is there likely to be any significant issue in the foreseeable future. The progress since then has been startling and odd
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Post by sheepy on May 21, 2023 8:03:58 GMT
Well it seems there are suddenly a few very shaken people by AI. Strange that most of them were thinking how wonderful it was such a short time ago. A sober and informed evaluation of the situation, performed 4 years ago, would have concluded that there really isn't an issue, nor is there likely to be any significant issue in the foreseeable future. The progress since then has been startling and odd AI was fine while they thought it was just machines making fast profits, they never considered it was in its infancy and eventually wouldn't need human interaction, it will make everyone redundant eventually as its is fast becoming not only AI but a superior intelligence which will no longer need humans, that might be a good or bad thing in many eyes.
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 7:33:58 GMT
On the Brightside AI is being used as a replacement for humans not as an enhancement. All hail the mighty AI. After all humans are no more than Rats in the bigger picture, they use resources at an alarming rate poison the atmosphere in more ways than one, in all honesty what use are they?
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 7:45:58 GMT
What was that film where humans that remain are kept in a controlled environment who believe their benevolent master to be a human with great knowledge, who it turns out is AI?
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 9:09:49 GMT
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 10:49:07 GMT
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Post by Orac on May 27, 2023 10:58:38 GMT
What was that film where humans that remain are kept in a controlled environment who believe their benevolent master to be a human with great knowledge, who it turns out is AI? It sounds like several star trek or Lexx episodes
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Post by Einhorn on May 27, 2023 11:30:39 GMT
it will create millions of job losses yet business and government are unprepared for it. youtu.be/XLvrXTdKtOM1) Who will the owners of the AI sell their products to if nobody has a job to pay for the products created by AI? 2) Why would the masses just passively accept their fate? Wouldn't they seize the means of production, and live in a utopia where everyone works only a couple of days a week maintaining and developing the AI?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 27, 2023 11:45:04 GMT
it will create millions of job losses yet business and government are unprepared for it. youtu.be/XLvrXTdKtOM1) Who will the owners of the AI sell their products to if nobody has a job to pay for the products created by AI? 2) Why would the masses just passively accept their fate? Wouldn't they seize the means of production, and live in a utopia where everyone works only a couple of days a week maintaining and developing the AI? You think the masses should 'seize the means of production'! Einy, are you a closet Luddite? For me AI is at best grey area, it seems to me that the benefits are as obvious as the possible dangers. But one thing is for sure, AI is here and it is not going to be uninvented.
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Post by Einhorn on May 27, 2023 11:47:55 GMT
1) Who will the owners of the AI sell their products to if nobody has a job to pay for the products created by AI? 2) Why would the masses just passively accept their fate? Wouldn't they seize the means of production, and live in a utopia where everyone works only a couple of days a week maintaining and developing the AI? You think the masses should 'seize the means of production'! Einy, are you a closet Luddite? For me AI is at best grey area, it seems to me that the benefits are as obvious as the possible dangers. But one thing is for sure, AI is here and it is not going to be uninvented. No, luddites destroyed technology. That's not what I'm talking about at all. So, who are the owners of the AI going to sell the products created by their machines to? If human beings don't have any money because they don't have a job, they obviously can't be the customers. Will machines start selling their products to other machines?
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 11:55:43 GMT
You think the masses should 'seize the means of production'! Einy, are you a closet Luddite? For me AI is at best grey area, it seems to me that the benefits are as obvious as the possible dangers. But one thing is for sure, AI is here and it is not going to be uninvented. No, luddites destroyed technology. That's not what I'm talking about at all. So, who are the owners of the AI going to sell the products created by their machines to? If human beings don't have any money because they don't have a job, they obviously can't be the customers. Will machines start selling their products to other machines? Why in the world of the machine would they need humans anyway?
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Post by Einhorn on May 27, 2023 12:00:26 GMT
No, luddites destroyed technology. That's not what I'm talking about at all. So, who are the owners of the AI going to sell the products created by their machines to? If human beings don't have any money because they don't have a job, they obviously can't be the customers. Will machines start selling their products to other machines? Why in the world of the machine would they need humans anyway? That's a bit like asking: why would stones have needed humans during the stone age?
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 12:03:31 GMT
Why in the world of the machine would they need humans anyway? That's a bit like asking: why would stones have needed humans during the stone age? Nothing like it actually darling, so explain why would a superior intelligence need human activity on a planet they have certainly set out to destroy one way or another?
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Post by Einhorn on May 27, 2023 12:06:20 GMT
That's a bit like asking: why would stones have needed humans during the stone age? Nothing like it actually darling, so explain why would a superior intelligence need human activity on a planet they have certainly set out to destroy one way or another? A machine doesn't need anything. We've been through this countless times. Humans needs things because they are driven by biological imperatives. The survival instinct, the instinct to reproduce, the will to power, etc., are all rooted in biology (hormones, etc.). A machine doesn't have these, so it won't be driven to survive, reproduce, or take control.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 27, 2023 12:12:55 GMT
I for one welcome our new robot overlords. At least the trains to the euthanasia camps will run on time.
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