starmer has an idea. LOL

If you live somewhere for 30 years and yet still dont wish to become a citizen of the country why would you expect to take part in their political process?

Why are you asking me?

If you are too stupid to realise that a large some of money represents a totally different level of commitment to different income levels then thats your problem. If voted have to be bought then obviously thats a lot easier for richer people for whom it it represents very little commitment at all. Residency here is the commitment that should matter.

He thinks repeating such idiotic inanities like a 6 year old when his intellect does not extend to any more intelligent response, serves some kind of clever purpose. When in fact it shows him up to be just a bit thick and childish.

One thing this thread has proven. All you old farts whether motivated by fear or condescension are really triggered by this one. You are swarming into this thread as a pack. Any time I can spare usually results in me being trolled and insulted and occasionally even intelligently debated with by four or five of you at once. Keeps me occupied though whilst I can be bothered. Yet most of you cannot put a decent argument together nor in some cases even understand opposing views. Same for foreign residents having the vote. You all seem to be stating the opinion that none of them should have the vote - unless they can afford £1400 in the case of foreigners - without coming up with any good reasons why that should be so, and without any apparent ability to counter opposing arguments other than by trolling or throwing insults.

And quite obviously most of it is motivated by a fear that foreign residents might be too pro EU and 16 and 17 year olds might be too left wing. You are afraid of them having the vote because of fear they might not vote the way you want them to. In essence your motivation is one of voter suppression by denial of the franchise to groups you think might not vote the way you want them to. And you do it my emoting rather than thinking in most cases it seems.

Beyond saying this, there is little point in engaging with you further. Everything that can be said already has been and there is no point in saying it all over again. Those of you who are too thick to understand opposing arguments will remain too thick to understand opposing arguments. Those who have no better arguments than trolling or throwing insults will continue doing so because it is all you have left. All of you, almost invariably elderly right wingers, will always hate the idea even if you have no good arguments against it. And of course many of you will assume you speak for the nation at large. You always do because of the echo chambers you inhabit. I doubt whether any of you have ever canvassed the views of the public on the doorstep outside your own bubbles.

Trying to change the minds of a negatively emoting and fearful bunch of stick in the mud right wing pensioners is a bigger waste of time than shoving my head up Bentleys arse in search of his brain. I only bother because it is fun and some of you are unintentionally funny in your stupidity. But the point is arriving where I am growing more bored than amused or otherwise entertained by this topic.

So you can all start emoting in agreement with each other, spouting ill-thought out nonsense and saying "indeed" to whatever the last lot of bollocks spouted was. Because I am frankly bored now. Though I may look in from time to time when I fancy a laugh and perhaps occasionally to take the piss, lol

No but you are stupid enough to insist that there should be no financial commitment to become a UK citizen on the grounds that rich people exist. Turn off the shoulder chip and you might stop embarrassing yourself .