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Post by sandypine on May 13, 2023 9:23:36 GMT
Arrogant and entitled blacks , arrogant and entitled Asians , arrogant and entitled whites. There seems to be a pattern here . I think if you'd spent the amount of time I've spent living in Africa you would realise that many thousands of years of evolution in a different environment has led to very different racial characteristics. I know the left like to think that all races are exactly the same - with the exception of skin colour - but that's simply not true. This is the strange thing as regards the left. When I was a keen young socialist the thinking was we are all human and skin colour is only a difference in the skin. Now the left seem to love the search for diversity where everyone brings something different to the table because they are intrinsically different with different attitudes, beliefs and ways to look at things so skin colour becomes in itself a value item as diversity is to be valued. This is almost a complete volte face from the view in the 70s. The main part of the problem is one is encouraged, coerced and legally obliged to consider and to value diversity yet if one thinks that diversity will have a negative impact on your life, your business, your family the full weight of the official position will come down upon your head to ensure those opinions cannot be aired. It has now become an official belief system which will bear no criticism. I am not sure how we got here and 1984 has been compared to death yet here we are in a day when truth has no value unless it is official truth. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 10:49:58 GMT
Oh yes I can ... most of my post is factual history anyway, it happened, its history, its a matter of fact. What are you going to attempt to push back on ? ... that discrimination and prejudice never happened, or that the MacPherson Inquiry was wrong, or that governments introduced Race Relations Bills just for something to do. Since you mentioned McPherson can you point to one piece of evidence in McPherson that was used to form the conclusion that the met were institutionally racist. It was a wide ranging conclusion that saw many changes in many ways yet it had no factual evidence presented as to how that conclusion was reached. There were over 40,000 people working in the met at the time yet all were branded as being part of an Institution the procedures of which, and the culture of which worked to the disadvantage of ethnic minorities on what was effectively an assumption by the man heading the Inquiry. No way to run a country. The Macpherson Report was very comprehensive, compelling and damning, and was based on thousands of statements, testimony and findings. "the original Metropolitan Police Service investigation had been incompetent and that officers had committed fundamental errors, including: failing to give first aid when they reached the scene; failing to follow obvious leads during their investigation; and failing to arrest suspects. The report found that there had been a failure of leadership by senior officers and that recommendations of the 1981 Scarman Report, compiled following race-related riots in Brixton and Toxteth, had been ignored." The very last resort of any argument is to deny facts, deny statistics, deny OFFICIAL findings, and to dispute official judgements based on evidence. |
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Post by piglet on May 13, 2023 11:45:09 GMT
Like the Romans in Britain, they brought sophistication in many ways, as well as subjugation, i wish the British imperialist dogs had done a better job. We left the vistages of progress to the primitives, sadly not reatained generally, and then imported the attitude into parliament re Badenoch.
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Post by sandypine on May 13, 2023 13:24:48 GMT
Since you mentioned McPherson can you point to one piece of evidence in McPherson that was used to form the conclusion that the met were institutionally racist. It was a wide ranging conclusion that saw many changes in many ways yet it had no factual evidence presented as to how that conclusion was reached. There were over 40,000 people working in the met at the time yet all were branded as being part of an Institution the procedures of which, and the culture of which worked to the disadvantage of ethnic minorities on what was effectively an assumption by the man heading the Inquiry. No way to run a country. The Macpherson Report was very comprehensive, compelling and damning, and was based on thousands of statements, testimony and findings. "the original Metropolitan Police Service investigation had been incompetent and that officers had committed fundamental errors, including: failing to give first aid when they reached the scene; failing to follow obvious leads during their investigation; and failing to arrest suspects. The report found that there had been a failure of leadership by senior officers and that recommendations of the 1981 Scarman Report, compiled following race-related riots in Brixton and Toxteth, had been ignored." The very last resort of any argument is to deny facts, deny statistics, deny OFFICIAL findings, and to dispute official judgements based on evidence. So you will have no problem finding at least one piece of evidence in that report that would lead to a conclusion that the MET was institutionally racist. Failures of the police at a scene is evidence of failures of police at a scene it is not evidence of institutional racism. If the witness at the scene had been more cooperative then perhaps things would have turned out differently but the duty of the police is to investigate what they find at a scene not necessarily what a person at the scene says happened whilst calling them all sorts of names. I bet there are a few official 'findings' full of 'facts' that you do not accept. |
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Post by Bentley on May 13, 2023 18:44:59 GMT
Arrogant and entitled blacks , arrogant and entitled Asians , arrogant and entitled whites. There seems to be a pattern here . I think if you'd spent the amount of time I've spent living in Africa you would realise that many thousands of years of evolution in a different environment has led to very different racial characteristics. I know the left like to think that all races are exactly the same - with the exception of skin colour - but that's simply not true. You might have a point if arrogant and entitled whites, Asians and Chinese were rarer. |
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