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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 21:15:07 GMT
This is ridiculous -- what on earth are you on about now?  Not that I will never consider it as an argument, but in this instance, tell me when I claimed that the UK is the slowest of the G7 countries to recover because it is not in the EU anymore. And tell me exactly what you said to refute this supposed claim of mine. Copy and paste them. Please. We don't want you going round and round being coy and vague about things. I've explained myself. It really is that simple. No, you haven't. You're just inventing things. Again. It doesn't take and Einstein to copy and paste the relevant statements. But you can't do that because you can't find them and you can't find them because they don't exist. You and your inventions! |
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Post by buccaneer on May 15, 2023 21:17:17 GMT
I've explained myself. It really is that simple. No, you haven't. You're just inventing things. Again. It doesn't take and Einstein to copy and paste the relevant statements. But you can't do that because you can't find them and you can't find them because they don't exist. You and your inventions! You're wasting your time. I've made my point. Thank you. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 15, 2023 21:36:27 GMT
The Britain of Brexit has hobbled the dynamism and confidence in the UK since the hollow promises have not happened and the country seems focussed on racist immigration.it hides the poverty of the state.And as for the argumemt "we can elect our own leaders""...that is seriously the biggest bellylaugh since Falstaff. Yest - since Brexit we have grown faster than Germany.. It's a disaster..  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 21:44:44 GMT
No, you haven't. You're just inventing things. Again. It doesn't take and Einstein to copy and paste the relevant statements. But you can't do that because you can't find them and you can't find them because they don't exist. You and your inventions! You're wasting your time. I've made my point. Thank you.  ^ (Dayuummmm, dah buccaneering man got caught inventing things again.) |
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Post by buccaneer on May 16, 2023 5:58:03 GMT
You're wasting your time. I've made my point. Thank you. ^ (Dayuummmm, dah buccaneering man got caught inventing things again.) I prefer not to indulge remainers after they have lost an argument - many don't take it gracefully and shift the goal posts. Your entire posting history on here supports my claims that you've desperately tried to blame almost anything onto Brexit. Your posting history speaks for itself. And anyone can see this for themselves, except you of course when you are called on your disingenuous hyperboles. |
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Post by oracle75 on May 16, 2023 6:55:16 GMT
The Britain of Brexit has hobbled the dynamism and confidence in the UK since the hollow promises have not happened and the country seems focussed on racist immigration.it hides the poverty of the state.And as for the argumemt "we can elect our own leaders""...that is seriously the biggest bellylaugh since Falstaff. Yest - since Brexit we have grown faster than Germany.. It's a disaster.. If true, and as usual you show no source, it is because Germany was never as proflligate and uninteresting to investment, yet STILL outstrips the UK in productivity and a sound economic base. www.deutschland.de/en/topic/business/why-is-the-german-economy-so-strong-seven-reasonsWhen the guy leading the race is already running at near top speed, it is easy for the guy at the back to bring his speed up a notch. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 16, 2023 7:20:34 GMT
Yest - since Brexit we have grown faster than Germany.. It's a disaster.. If true, and as usual you show no source, it is because Germany was never as proflligate and uninteresting to investment, yet STILL outstrips the UK in productivity and a sound economic base. www.deutschland.de/en/topic/business/why-is-the-german-economy-so-strong-seven-reasonsWhen the guy leading the race is already running at near top speed, it is easy for the guy at the back to bring his speed up a notch. Well I dont think we have done very well but we have certainly not fared significantly better or worse than any other European economy. Perhaps your media in France dont highlight that?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 7:31:51 GMT
^ (Dayuummmm, dah buccaneering man got caught inventing things again.) I prefer not to indulge remainers after they have lost an argument - many don't take it gracefully and shift the goal posts. Your entire posting history on here supports my claims that you've desperately tried to blame almost anything onto Brexit. Your posting history speaks for itself. And anyone can see this for themselves, except you of course when you are called on your disingenuous hyperboles. Prefer not to indulge, my foot! I put you on the spot and now you're shutting down the discussion that you, yourself initiated because you don't know how to get out of it, that's what. You invent things. You pivot to meaningless, irrelevant rhetoric. And when you're put on the spot, you close shop. If that's how you cope and how you move on, fine. Your problem, not mine. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 16, 2023 7:45:57 GMT
I prefer not to indulge remainers after they have lost an argument - many don't take it gracefully and shift the goal posts. Your entire posting history on here supports my claims that you've desperately tried to blame almost anything onto Brexit. Your posting history speaks for itself. And anyone can see this for themselves, except you of course when you are called on your disingenuous hyperboles. Prefer not to indulge, my foot! I put you on the spot and now you're shutting down the discussion that you, yourself initiated because you don't know how to get out of it, that's what. You invent things. You pivot to meaningless, irrelevant rhetoric. And when you're put on the spot, you close shop. If that's how you cope and how you move on, fine. Your problem, not mine. Not so. One needs to know where to draw a line when a cultist believes EU good; Britain (suddenly) bad - because it left the EU. Banging one's head against a brick-wall gives one a headache. You've blamed GDP recovery and inflation on Brexit. When asked to prove this you've failed. Ho hum. |
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Post by oracle75 on May 16, 2023 8:11:44 GMT
Well I dont think we have done very well but we have certainly not fared significantly better or worse than any other European economy. Perhaps your media in France dont highlight that? You still dont get it. Groowth is relative to the last time it was calculated. If Germany was doing well its growth wont look to be much. If the UK was not doing well, any growth will look to be be a bigger prercentage of the previous calculation. But the final figure will be that the percentage of the higher figure will still be far more than the lower figure, but the percentage of the lower figure will be a higher differential from the previous year. Got it? |
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Post by Vinny on May 16, 2023 8:22:42 GMT
Brexit is an overwhelming success.
All the scaremongering Remain came out with in 2016 turned out to be bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 9:31:06 GMT
Prefer not to indulge, my foot! I put you on the spot and now you're shutting down the discussion that you, yourself initiated because you don't know how to get out of it, that's what. You invent things. You pivot to meaningless, irrelevant rhetoric. And when you're put on the spot, you close shop. If that's how you cope and how you move on, fine. Your problem, not mine. Not so. One needs to know where to draw a line when a cultist believes EU good; Britain (suddenly) bad - because it left the EU.Banging one's head against a brick-wall gives one a headache. You've blamed GDP recovery and inflation on Brexit. When asked to prove this you've failed. Ho hum. Well, you drew the line and closed shop abruptly when you said that you preferred not to indulge Remainers. So, why are you now back giving me another one of your inventions? It's either you don't know where to draw the line or you erased the line that you originally drew and moved it further. Which is it, tell me? Copy and paste what you're talking about now so I can correct you. Go! |
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Post by Pacifico on May 16, 2023 11:59:32 GMT
Well I dont think we have done very well but we have certainly not fared significantly better or worse than any other European economy. Perhaps your media in France dont highlight that? You still dont get it. Groowth is relative to the last time it was calculated. If Germany was doing well its growth wont look to be much. If the UK was not doing well, any growth will look to be be a bigger prercentage of the previous calculation. But the final figure will be that the percentage of the higher figure will still be far more than the lower figure, but the percentage of the lower figure will be a higher differential from the previous year. Got it? So for the 6 years since we left the EU the UK has seen higher growth than Germany - and that, in your mind, is an example of failure? If the argument is that in 2016 the UK was starting from a much lower base than Germany, then what does that say for 40 years of EU membership?. If EU membership leads to such a poor economic outcome then surely it is wise to try something different? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 16, 2023 12:15:42 GMT
Yest - since Brexit we have grown faster than Germany.. It's a disaster.. If true, and as usual you show no source, it is because Germany was never as proflligate and uninteresting to investment, yet STILL outstrips the UK in productivity and a sound economic base. www.deutschland.de/en/topic/business/why-is-the-german-economy-so-strong-seven-reasonsWhen the guy leading the race is already running at near top speed, it is easy for the guy at the back to bring his speed up a notch. The situation with Germany is the energy supply. They were reliant on Russian energy to a large degree and what with the switch from Merkel, Germany has now a poor relationship with Russia and Uncle Sam blew up their gas supply. Plus the Greens are strong in Germany and want to ban all nuclear, gas and coal etc. Furthermore Germany made 400bn euros/year in cars. This was their specialist industry and the big earner for them. They had over 100 years experience in producing cars powered by combustion engines, so managed to export a shit load of cars to places like China and the US. What has happened now is there is a switch to EV. EVs are entirely different so need a complete redesign, making countries like China exist in a balanced competition with Germany, as per two competitors seeing which is better when they both start at the starting line at the same time. The Chinese state made a big push to orientating Chinese industry to go after the automotive sector. In other words Germany has lost its trade advantage. |
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Post by Vinny on May 16, 2023 12:19:26 GMT
Russian warships were near the pipeline before it blew up and Putin had been frequently shutting off gas to Germany before it blew, only to see Germany tighten the sanctions further.
Putin had the Russian Navy blow Nordstream up.
It wasn't the Yanks.
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