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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 10, 2023 6:23:09 GMT
This seems quite popular on social media.
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 6:25:30 GMT
So you are quite relaxed about removing one persons 'right to protest' but are getting exercised about removing some other peoples 'right to protest' Doesn't seem that this 'right to protest' is worth much if it can be arbitrary taken away - not exactly a right is it? Protesting is a right and people died and suffered so that we could have it. For the Tories to take that right away is something all the people should be up, out and protesting about. Why does losing this right not anger you? Are you that apathetic that you will let a 'cabal' of rich people tell you what you can and cannot do? There is no blanket right to protest - never has been. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 6:39:49 GMT
Protesting is a right and people died and suffered so that we could have it. For the Tories to take that right away is something all the people should be up, out and protesting about. Why does losing this right not anger you? Are you that apathetic that you will let a 'cabal' of rich people tell you what you can and cannot do? There is no blanket right to protest - never has been. Let's say you are right and we do not have the 'right' to protest and that protesting is just a 'privilege' given to us by the ruling class, do you think that is acceptable. There has never, in modern history, been a law that forbids, peaceful assembly, the carrying of banners, and the ability to object to a particular state of events, ergo a protest. Protesting has never, until now, been illegal, thinking has never, until now been illegal. Why do you supports such draconian attitudes? |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 10, 2023 6:49:52 GMT
Anyone noticed that those who complained about the authoritarian Covid lockdowns are OK with trampling on people's right to protest?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 10, 2023 6:52:45 GMT
No.
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Post by Toreador on May 10, 2023 6:54:28 GMT
Anyone noticed that those who complained about the authoritarian Covid lockdowns are OK with trampling on people's right to protest? No but that maybe, like others, I'm not ever looking for obscure causes to rabble about. |
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Post by Toreador on May 10, 2023 6:55:22 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 7:08:03 GMT
There is no blanket right to protest - never has been. Let's say you are right and we do not have the 'right' to protest and that protesting is just a 'privilege' given to us by the ruling class, do you think that is acceptable. There has never, in modern history, been a law that forbids, peaceful assembly, the carrying of banners, and the ability to object to a particular state of events, ergo a protest. Protesting has never, until now, been illegal, thinking has never, until now been illegal. Why do you supports such draconian attitudes? So let me get this straight - you would support the 'right' of pro-life protestors to glue themselves to the entrances of abortion clinics to prevent women accessing abortions? If you dont then well done - you are now agreeing that there is no 'right' to protest. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 7:11:37 GMT
Anyone noticed that those who complained about the authoritarian Covid lockdowns are OK with trampling on people's right to protest? People were banned from protesting the COVID lockdowns - where was your concern then? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 7:20:35 GMT
Let's say you are right and we do not have the 'right' to protest and that protesting is just a 'privilege' given to us by the ruling class, do you think that is acceptable. There has never, in modern history, been a law that forbids, peaceful assembly, the carrying of banners, and the ability to object to a particular state of events, ergo a protest. Protesting has never, until now, been illegal, thinking has never, until now been illegal. Why do you supports such draconian attitudes? So let me get this straight - you would support the 'right' of pro-life protestors to glue themselves to the entrances of abortion clinics to prevent women accessing abortions? If you dont then well done - you are now agreeing that there is no 'right' to protest. Silly, they can protest without gluing themselves to the entrance. I do not support a protesters right to break any laws or act unreasonably. Making noise, carrying banners is not unreasonable. I see what you are trying to do, you want me, or someone that believes in the right to protest, to show you the exact law that says "the British people have a right to protest" as an argument that protesters cannot protest. Again this is silly, we are a free people and allowed to "go about our business as we wish", that basic fundamental right gives us the inherent right to protest. I se, though that you are extremely reticent to answer the question as to why "you are not angry that people are having a basic right removed"? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 7:21:41 GMT
Anyone noticed that those who complained about the authoritarian Covid lockdowns are OK with trampling on people's right to protest? People were banned from protesting the COVID lockdowns - where was your concern then? Public health and safety. Whether this was right or wrong is another issue. |
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Post by Orac on May 10, 2023 7:25:50 GMT
One detail I heard is that some protesters were handing out rape alarms and encouraging people to use them. Apparently, the noise is a known issue for horses.
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 7:27:43 GMT
So let me get this straight - you would support the 'right' of pro-life protestors to glue themselves to the entrances of abortion clinics to prevent women accessing abortions? If you dont then well done - you are now agreeing that there is no 'right' to protest. Silly, they can protest without gluing themselves to the entrance. I do not support a protesters right to break any laws or act unreasonably. Making noise, carrying banners is not unreasonable. I see what you are trying to do, you want me, or someone that believes in the right to protest, to show you the exact law that says "the British people have a right to protest" as an argument that protesters cannot protest. Again this is silly, we are a free people and allowed to "go about our business as we wish", that basic fundamental right gives us the inherent right to protest. I se, though that you are extremely reticent to answer the question as to why "you are not angry that people are having a basic right removed"? So if the 'right' to protest does not involve causing disruption to other peoples going about their normal lives what are you complaining about? The Police were perfectly correct to prevent disruption to an event that was being enjoyed by millions - there was no restriction on any protest that these people might want to do anywhere else in London - they just could not disrupt everyone else's right to "go about our business as we wish" on the 2 streets that were being used. |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 7:32:58 GMT
This seems quite popular on social media.
IMO right-wing garbage is the reason why social media is a dangerous place. It has even been reported that young teenagers have spread their right-wing extremism on social media. Freedom is one thing, the freedom to exploit the minds of the easily led is, IMO, a dangerous freedom. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 7:35:43 GMT
One detail I heard is that some protesters were handing out rape alarms and encouraging people to use them. Apparently, the noise is a known issue for horses. One detail I heard is that some Councils were handing out rape alarms and encouraging women to use them if attacked. Army horses are very well trained and are used to loud noises, such as drums, wind instruments and the like being belted out whilst remaining calm. |
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