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Post by Handyman on May 9, 2023 18:56:33 GMT
My two bob's worth on this , there appears to have been some misleading ill informed reports by the media on Saturday, when Police arrest a suspect they have the authority to keep that suspect in custody for 24 hours, if the offence is serious and they cannot bail them the Police can apply for a Court order to keep them for longer, the CPS decide who is charged and with what not the Police In todays Evening Standard the Met Police Commissioner has written an article supporting his Officers and more details, hopefully the link will work www.standard.co.uk/news/uk |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 9, 2023 19:13:39 GMT
My two bob's worth on this , there appears to have been some misleading ill informed reports by the media on Saturday, when Police arrest a suspect they have the authority to keep that suspect in custody for 24 hours, if the offence is serious and they cannot bail them the Police can apply for a Court order to keep them for longer, the CPS decide who is charged and with what not the Police In todays Evening Standard the Met Police Commissioner has written an article supporting his Officers and more details, hopefully the link will work www.standard.co.uk/news/ukThis link takes you straight to the article. |
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Post by wapentake on May 9, 2023 19:51:32 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. You think they won? You must've seen their tweet about volunteering and working with the police and the big thing made about it countrywide the Royals getting involved,the replies of abuse saying what work with you and get arrested after three volunteers handing out rape alarms which they have been doing long term and with full knowledge of the police were detained. Westminster city council are very unhappy the volunteers too,potential volunteers have said sod that and the general public are even more unhappy with the Met,yep a win all round. A chief constable commented on this (Peter Fahy iirc) that this was legislation rushed through by politicians and pushed on the police who failed to grasp it. So what’ve we got politicians acting in haste,senior cops blaming it on the poor bloody infantry and you thinking it a win,remote possibility for the day but then ongoing a PR disaster and trust in the met falling further. Add to that his much trumpeted legislation saw just stop oil post coronation business as usual annoying the plebs. Bugger me this win pales the 1966 World Cup in to insignificance.  |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 9, 2023 20:39:14 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 9, 2023 20:43:11 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... What's your evidence that the protesters were arrested for political reasons? The police have stated that the detentions were to prevent a breach of the peace. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 9, 2023 21:07:46 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. You think they won? You must've seen their tweet about volunteering and working with the police and the big thing made about it countrywide the Royals getting involved,the replies of abuse saying what work with you and get arrested after three volunteers handing out rape alarms which they have been doing long term and with full knowledge of the police were detained. Westminster city council are very unhappy the volunteers too,potential volunteers have said sod that and the general public are even more unhappy with the Met,yep a win all round. A chief constable commented on this (Peter Fahy iirc) that this was legislation rushed through by politicians and pushed on the police who failed to grasp it. So what’ve we got politicians acting in haste,senior cops blaming it on the poor bloody infantry and you thinking it a win,remote possibility for the day but then ongoing a PR disaster and trust in the met falling further. Add to that his much trumpeted legislation saw just stop oil post coronation business as usual annoying the plebs. Bugger me this win pales the 1966 World Cup in to insignificance. Of course they won - they don't care about 'politicians acting haste' - they leave that to people who are exercised by the new Law. All the Police had to do was ensure that the event passed off without incident - which it did. I'm damn sure they will take the win..  |
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Post by Pacifico on May 9, 2023 21:09:00 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... Well you know that is not what happened - good try though.. |
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Post by wapentake on May 9, 2023 21:18:38 GMT
You think they won? You must've seen their tweet about volunteering and working with the police and the big thing made about it countrywide the Royals getting involved,the replies of abuse saying what work with you and get arrested after three volunteers handing out rape alarms which they have been doing long term and with full knowledge of the police were detained. Westminster city council are very unhappy the volunteers too,potential volunteers have said sod that and the general public are even more unhappy with the Met,yep a win all round. A chief constable commented on this (Peter Fahy iirc) that this was legislation rushed through by politicians and pushed on the police who failed to grasp it. So what’ve we got politicians acting in haste,senior cops blaming it on the poor bloody infantry and you thinking it a win,remote possibility for the day but then ongoing a PR disaster and trust in the met falling further. Add to that his much trumpeted legislation saw just stop oil post coronation business as usual annoying the plebs. Bugger me this win pales the 1966 World Cup in to insignificance. Of course they won - they don't care about 'politicians acting haste' - they leave that to people who are exercised by the new Law. All the Police had to do was ensure that the event passed off without incident - which it did. I'm damn sure they will take the win.. Your problem like them is you don’t see when you’ve lost the argument,let’s see how this pans out? |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 9, 2023 22:42:52 GMT
So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... Well you know that is not what happened - good try though.. I didn't say it was what happened, thank goodness. I said it was the logical conclusion from your reasoning. |
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Post by jonksy on May 10, 2023 5:20:58 GMT
Well you know that is not what happened - good try though.. I didn't say it was what happened, thank goodness. I said it was the logical conclusion from your reasoning. what's a matter sunshine? Did you forget your glue? |
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Post by Toreador on May 10, 2023 5:48:10 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... IT would be a good idea if Remnant doom mongers allowed others to discuss the future rather than ever dragging us back to the Remnant dreamland. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 10, 2023 5:54:16 GMT
The Police won - the day passed off without any protests causing disruption. Which after all was the primary goal of the policing operation. So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit...
I wonder what your take would be if it were members of the EDL being detained?
I suspect that many left-wingers would be more than OK with that.
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Post by sheepy on May 10, 2023 6:01:31 GMT
As they have already done it, without a consensus, what else is there you can say?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 6:16:02 GMT
No I am not, it was a sensible 'compromise' by Labour but you have no reaction to your right to protest removed, I find that odd. So you are quite relaxed about removing one persons 'right to protest' but are getting exercised about removing some other peoples 'right to protest' Doesn't seem that this 'right to protest' is worth much if it can be arbitrary taken away - not exactly a right is it? Protesting is a right and people died and suffered so that we could have it. For the Tories to take that right away is something all the people should be up, out and protesting about. Why does losing this right not anger you? Are you that apathetic that you will let a 'cabal' of rich people tell you what you can and cannot do? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 6:16:55 GMT
So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit...
I wonder what your take would be if it were members of the EDL being detained?
I suspect that many left-wingers would be more than OK with that.
If the commit no crime, no. Aren't they proscribed though? |
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