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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 19:04:54 GMT
The data, based on median gross hourly earnings between 2012 and 2018, shows that the Chinese ethnicity group is the highest paid, receiving 15.75 pounds an hour in 2018, followed by the Indian ethic group, which earns 13.47 pounds an hour."The average employees from the Chinese and Indian ethnic groups have consistently earned more than the average White British employee since 2012. For the Indian ethnic group, the gap has stayed relatively consistent since 2012 and in 2018 stood at negative 12 per cent,” the ONS analysis notes.The category defined as Mixed/Multiple ethnicity group, came in third with 12.33 pounds hourly pay rate, with the median pay of the White British group found to be 12.03 pounds what im clearly stating how ever you try and twist it the immigrant community pays more in Taxes then the Native British
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 23, 2022 19:12:49 GMT
What this demonstrates is a total lack of humanity,people who served their country do not deserve to be homeless or have to suffer mental anguish alone through experiences they could not avoid. There are those by birth dealt a rotten hand or others who fall prey to the vagaries of life and in any civilised society they are helped. If you want to live in a dog eat dog society remember if you lose your legs even for a moment you’ll get your throat ripped out. Nope, no one denies the genuinely needy. But, as I said, what this thread is starting to demonstrate, rather neatly, is that there are way too many people who think that the world (or rather anyone that they perceive as being richer than them) owes them a living. And it doesn't. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 23, 2022 19:14:42 GMT
Very true. Which begs the question, why did vast swathes of baby boomers feel entitled to a council house so they could support and raise their families on one blue collar wage, and then feel entitled to be gifted those council houses on the cheap, and then not contribute enough to build more, depriving future generations of the same. why did those same boomers feel entitled to free further education via grants, but then when it came time for them to contribute, they decided it was too expensive so introduced loans for those that came after them. Why did they, instead of contributing to the upkeep of public services, did they choose to sell those services off to save themselves a bit of cash while depriving future generations of the same services? How come this sense of no-one owing anyone else anything mainly comes from those that literally took the legacy that the war generations built, milked it for all its worth through some sort of self entitlement, and left those that followed with the consequences. On top of all that how come that same group, thinks it is OK they milk the workers of today to keep them in the lap of luxury, because they aren't willing to use the wealth they built up to pay for their retirements themselves. No idea, if these people actually exist then you'd need to ask them. I'm way younger than the boomers and I still don't recognise the people you describe. Much less see them as a problem. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 23, 2022 19:18:00 GMT
Absolutely spot on. You have got the "me, me, me" generation banged to rights, a noble minority being the exception. I am 57 years old myself but can see what the boomer generation has done, and how they have shafted future generations in their own greedy self interest. Bullshit, you're just blaming others for your own lack of achievement. I'm younger than you and not blaming the older generation for anything. We all have to play the hand we're given, in the time in which we live. Perhaps you should have tried harder at school, Shrieky Steve.  |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 23, 2022 19:20:01 GMT
Unfortunately, social care is our area of biggest expenditure. It therefore makes sense that it should be the area to bear the largest cuts. It's no good bleating about it: One way or another the dependency culture will have to end. Isn't pensions the biggest? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 19:22:11 GMT
Very true. Which begs the question, why did vast swathes of baby boomers feel entitled to a council house so they could support and raise their families on one blue collar wage, and then feel entitled to be gifted those council houses on the cheap, and then not contribute enough to build more, depriving future generations of the same. why did those same boomers feel entitled to free further education via grants, but then when it came time for them to contribute, they decided it was too expensive so introduced loans for those that came after them. Why did they, instead of contributing to the upkeep of public services, did they choose to sell those services off to save themselves a bit of cash while depriving future generations of the same services? How come this sense of no-one owing anyone else anything mainly comes from those that literally took the legacy that the war generations built, milked it for all its worth through some sort of self entitlement, and left those that followed with the consequences. On top of all that how come that same group, thinks it is OK they milk the workers of today to keep them in the lap of luxury, because they aren't willing to use the wealth they built up to pay for their retirements themselves. Absolutely spot on. You have got the "me, me, me" generation banged to rights, a noble minority being the exception. I am 57 years old myself but can see what the boomer generation has done, and how they have shafted future generations in their own greedy self interest.. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 19:24:21 GMT
The reason why Wales is so poor is because it hasnt recoverd from the closing of its many coal mines especially in south west wales. Dose wales even have a industry now
its the mines fault now ?
do new labour ever take responsibility for anything?
Funny how all these shite areas of poverty seem to be where they have thier fiefdoms , yet as soon as they are kicked out , the grass springs anew again , and things improve.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 23, 2022 19:24:50 GMT
But its how we pay back the extra borrowing caused by these storms that is the question that divides politics If you believe that essential public services and the least well off should bare the brunt of paying off the deficit, then vote Conservative, because that is precisely what the Conservatives have done. Instead of hitting the over-inflated profits of mega corporations and companies, they have instead introduced such things as The Bedroom Tax. The Conservatives COULD HAVE done what Tony Blair did in the late 1990s, and imposed Windfall Taxes, which did our economy absolutely no harm what so ever. But instead, the Conservatives are hell bent on cutting taxes, even borrowing to do so, when Social Care and the NHS is falling apart. They are? - since when?. We currently have the highest tax burden since WW2 so I would really love to see a list of all these taxes the Tories have supposedly cut. But still lower than most civilised countries. Your repeated failure to see that the improvements in health treatment cost more are quite worrying. Would you really want to give them up? Or is it that you do want every last one of them but want someone else to lose their help to pay for it. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 19:26:49 GMT
Plus social care for the elderly Zany but the likes of squeeze just look at the unemployed and them on sickness benefits and blames them
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 19:34:26 GMT
Absolutely spot on. You have got the "me, me, me" generation banged to rights, a noble minority being the exception. I am 57 years old myself but can see what the boomer generation has done, and how they have shafted future generations in their own greedy self interest. Bullshit, you're just blaming others for your own lack of achievement. I'm younger than you and not blaming the older generation for anything. We all have to play the hand we're given, in the time in which we live. Perhaps you should have tried harder at school, Shrieky Steve. I am not blaming them for my life, but for shafting the lives of the younger generations including millions of hard working strivers. Me, me, me writ large. And methinks you are old before your time cos you sound like one of their soulmates. lol |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 23, 2022 19:36:09 GMT
Plus social care for the elderly Zany but the likes of squeeze just look at the unemployed and them on sickness benefits and blames them Its a common trait in any of these conversations. Ask any person about paying more tax and they talk of waste, draw a circle around themselves and family and point to things you could cut outside of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 19:36:50 GMT
Absolutely spot on. You have got the "me, me, me" generation banged to rights, a noble minority being the exception. I am 57 years old myself but can see what the boomer generation has done, and how they have shafted future generations in their own greedy self interest.. You have hardly demonstrated that I am wrong by talking it yourself. I guess you are probably one of the complicit ones? |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 19:44:07 GMT
Yeah I dont know how a 1% increase in taxation to the 1% top earners in Britain will affect the likes of Squeeze but they bend over backwards for them
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 23, 2022 19:45:26 GMT
I am not blaming them for my life, but for shafting the lives of the younger generations including millions of hard working strivers. Me, me, me writ large... Well it's definitely You, you, you writ large, Shrieky. As in you projecting your personal failures onto the younger generation. And methinks you are old before your time cos you sound like one of their soulmates. lol Nah, I'm a lot closer to the younger generation than you which is how I know that they reject your projections of fail. As Churchill said: “Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.” That's you that is, Shrieky. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 19:49:06 GMT
You have hardly demonstrated that I am wrong by talking it yourself. I guess you are probably one of the complicit ones? Complicit of what? |
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