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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 24, 2022 9:59:04 GMT
Pacfical who says there down sizeing when they move to the countryside/seaside have you any any evidence that is the case ?
I dont think single storey bungalows is the issue here because of the homeless situation in the countryside.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 10:03:43 GMT
The idea that growth in wealth can be constantly achieved on an over-populated planet is farcical. There are limited resources, a growing number of economically inactive people, more automation, less manual work and a lowering of the standard of living has to come. Humanity will become a victim of its own success because of going forth and multiplying.
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Post by see2 on Oct 24, 2022 10:06:42 GMT
NL did not flog off all our gold. The proceeds were used in a number of ways: Part of the proceeds were used to buy currency reserves at a time when currencies were boss, Dollar, Yen and one other, which were then placed in the reserves with the remainder of the gold. The currencies then earned interest where gold did not. Some of the proceeds were used to reduce the National Debt, thus reducing the ongoing interest paid on that debt. It wasn't Brown's finest moment, but it wasn't quite as disastrous as his enemies made it out to be. Incidentally the value of gold is declining. Untrue , standard minor fluctuations but vastly higher than at the Brown fiasco The price of gold is currently more than double that when Brown left office in 2010 and roughly 7 times higher than when he stupidly sold off UK gold on the market www.royalmint.com/gold-price/?period=AllTimeGold is fluctuating at the moment, after a significant fall in value, so my comment is true. "According to the Bank of America (BofA), there are three main reasons for the decreasing value of gold: the weakening of physical demand, a lacklustre jewellery market, and a lack of investor interest". |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 24, 2022 10:07:34 GMT
Thomas new labour did a massive housing regeneration programme
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Post by see2 on Oct 24, 2022 10:16:14 GMT
I think a lowering of the standard of living is inevitable, especially given the last 14 years of the economy.
I also believe that the low paid and others on low income should not be made to proportionally carry most of the burden.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2022 10:19:25 GMT
After years campaigning on here it has become clear to me that no one wants to raise tax. So we must accept a lower standard of living... The only people who need to accept a lower standard of living are those dependent on public services. As I asked in another thread: Are we too dependent as a society? And I think that we are. And, as I said then, we will never raise enough tax to deliver the services that some claim to want. Personally, I'd like to see a smaller state, doing less. The state with all its stupid rules just serves as a drag on industrial production. They make a simple process into a hideously complicated one where everyone needs lawyers. If the state aint going to provide for us then we might as well tell it to fuck off with all its rules. That's how it works: no provision - no say, and if you want a say then expect a kick in the teeth. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 24, 2022 10:25:59 GMT
Yea squeezed a part of the reason for the right to buy was because social housing fell into diissrepear that was all councils lab/con/lib
And were talking about today's problem I wonder how many of the 200, 000 + empty dwellings are council.
And yea tyipical right wing crap to blame the housing problem on overpopulation
How many immigrants do we have 3/4million including illegals .
How many pensioners 5 million plus
It doesn't take a genius to work out who has the biggest burden on the housing stock
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 24, 2022 10:32:30 GMT
Yea squeezed a part of the reason for the right to buy was because social housing fell into diissrepear that was all councils lab/con/lib And were talking about today's problem I wonder how many of the 200, 000 + empty dwellings are council. And yea tyipical right wing crap to blame the housing problem on overpopulation How many immigrants do we have 3/4million including illegals . How many pensioners 5 million plus It doesn't take a genius to work out who has the biggest burden on the housing stock the immigrants were a burden we could do something about.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 24, 2022 10:35:02 GMT
After years campaigning on here it has become clear to me that no one wants to raise tax. So we must accept a lower standard of living. I appreciate that's not possible for a small group of very low paid, only it is. We could accept increases in school class sizes, cuts in services the council/nhs/police etc offer. Many countries do not have anywhere near the level of service we have. Should we accept we are now a second world country. What exactly is a “second world economy” and how many food banks do they have in the third world ? |
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Post by Orac on Oct 24, 2022 10:36:43 GMT
How many immigrants do we have 3/4million including illegals . Obviously, you need to look at the population added because of immigration, rather than the instantaneous figure of the number of people currently classed as 'immigrants' If you do this, your fetish starts to look a little incongruous when compared to your other concerns. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 24, 2022 10:38:29 GMT
The idea that growth in wealth can be constantly achieved on an over-populated planet is farcical. There are limited resources, a growing number of economically inactive people, more automation, less manual work and a lowering of the standard of living has to come. Humanity will become a victim of its own success because of going forth and multiplying. If only my academic mentors had not discovered, and rectified, the problem with the recycling of water in the Thames a few decades ago … |
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Post by patman post on Oct 24, 2022 10:49:40 GMT
The idea that growth in wealth can be constantly achieved on an over-populated planet is farcical. There are limited resources, a growing number of economically inactive people, more automation, less manual work and a lowering of the standard of living has to come. Humanity will become a victim of its own success because of going forth and multiplying. But isn’t it a fact that the wealthier a country is, and the wider education is spread, the fewer children there are per woman? It’s probably taken a hundred years for such information to be recognised and to be gradually taken onboard by governments and international charities. But action is still slow, and wars, pandemics, and climate change attract the attention despite these causing vast amounts emigration, which itself is a factor in overcrowding and draining resources… |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2022 11:10:05 GMT
The idea that growth in wealth can be constantly achieved on an over-populated planet is farcical. There are limited resources, a growing number of economically inactive people, more automation, less manual work and a lowering of the standard of living has to come. Humanity will become a victim of its own success because of going forth and multiplying. But isn’t it a fact that the wealthier a country is, and the wider education is spread, the fewer children there are per woman? It’s probably taken a hundred years for such information to be recognised and to be gradually taken onboard by governments and international charities. But action is still slow, and wars, pandemics, and climate change attract the attention despite these causing vast amounts emigration, which itself is a factor in overcrowding and draining resources… The UK is reversing down the path of evolution because of this. It's the enemy within. They know alright. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 24, 2022 11:23:13 GMT
Yea pacifico the immigrants are somthing we could do something about
But you're wonderful Brexit/Tories haven't done anything to fix the problem has a matter of fact immigration has increased during there tenure.
With Business asking for a easing on visas because we have over 100, 000 vacancies
What your suggestions to take control of immigration?
Was it Cameron who said he get immigration down to 100, 000 and back tracked because it wasnt feasible
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Post by see2 on Oct 24, 2022 13:06:58 GMT
The only people who need to accept a lower standard of living are those dependent on public services. As I asked in another thread: Are we too dependent as a society? And I think that we are. And, as I said then, we will never raise enough tax to deliver the services that some claim to want. Personally, I'd like to see a smaller state, doing less. The state with all its stupid rules just serves as a drag on industrial production. They make a simple process into a hideously complicated one where everyone needs lawyers. If the state aint going to provide for us then we might as well tell it to fuck off with all its rules. That's how it works: no provision - no say, and if you want a say then expect a kick in the teeth. It seems to me that the alternative would be a green light for those who can, to take advantage and return the country back to sending 10-year-old children up the chimney. In short if unbridled capitalism wasn't so awful, we would not be in this state in the first place. |
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