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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 22:07:53 GMT
Full employment, readily accessible and reasonably well paid full time jobs, paid apprenticeships, free university tuition, plentiful council housing, affordable house prices, a robust welfare safety net for those in dire need. Sufficient housing for all. Jeez, talk about glossing over it. My generation, the so called boomer generation, are disciplined and have a strong work ethic. I was brought up to believe that you don't rely on anyone, you work, or go without. When I was born the population was c50 million, today it's c68 million. Such a massive increase in population over such a short space of time is bound to have a detrimental effect on society, particularly on housing and healthcare. Are you aware that since 2007 England has been the most densely populated country in Europe? That's the EU's fault, not baby boomers. Them voting to buy up all the council housing at huge subsidies and denying it to future generations is down to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 22:10:04 GMT
Off course you can Blame the housing problem on Baby Boomers they the marjorty of old live in under occupied housing . Instead of Downsizing the Marjority want to remain in there Two or Three bedroom house . Now you can't say that not a major problem Don't be so epically stupid. Are you not capable of counter arguments, or do you just insult people you disagree with in the absence of any sensible points? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2022 22:12:36 GMT
So why was Shelter formed in 1966 and Centrepoint in 1969? - as someone who was actually around in the 1960's I seem to remember we had a massive homelessness problem - so much so that it was a political firestorm when Ken Loach's play 'Cathy Come Home' was first aired on the BBC. I think you have been reading a fair few romantic novels about what life was like for the Boomers. The main problem - then as now - was an insufficiently regulated private rental sector. Eh? - I went through the Rackman saga and the legislation that was brought in after that decimated the number of private rentals. What books are you getting all this nonsense from? |
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Post by colbops on Oct 23, 2022 22:15:20 GMT
Everyone that came after the baby boomers have been accepting an ever decreasing standard of living.
In no small part that has been exacerbated by those same baby boomers who have at every turn, selfishly ensured they haven't shared the pain. We now have a society of 60+ers living extremely comfortable lives, living in big houses with spare bedrooms, playing with their train sets while the workers of today live in poverty. Time for a dramatic wealth redistribution programme, and if not forthcoming, an intergenerational civil war Eh? - who has had a decreasing standard of living in the last 40 years? If you dont have the latest Nike trainers and only have a 30 inch TV you are now living in poverty - you couldn't cope with the standard of living the boomers grew up in.. Well according to The new economics foundation, without a change in Government policy 21.4 million people will be living below a socially acceptable living standard. This ranges from people who cannot afford to eat, keep clean, and stay warm and dry to those falling substantially short of a decent standard of living and likely to be experiencing some form of material deprivation where they cannot afford certain essential items. We aren't talking people who cant afford Nike Trainers or 30 Inch TVs, we are talking people who can't afford to put food on the table, clothe their kids, who arent able to buy things like toothpaste and sanitary towels. You shouldn't be making light of that, you should be ashamed of yourself. We all should. How on earth can the UK in 2020 be in a situation like that. We are one of the richest nations in the world. How can it be OK that some in our society are buying up up private islands for themselves, or sitting on millions of wealth, while the people they exploited to get there are sending their kids to school on empty stomachs? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 22:18:00 GMT
Don't be so epically stupid. Are you not capable of counter arguments, or do you just insult people you disagree with in the absence of any sensible points? The complete absence of sensible points vindicates my curt response. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 22:21:17 GMT
· 5.42 million households (79%) led by someone aged 65 or over were owner-occupiers in 2018-19. 1.09 million were social renters (16%)
Why am I being stupid can you prove me wrong about the old generation living in under occupied housing
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 22:22:06 GMT
Jeez, talk about glossing over it. My generation, the so called boomer generation, are disciplined and have a strong work ethic. I was brought up to believe that you don't rely on anyone, you work, or go without. When I was born the population was c50 million, today it's c68 million. Such a massive increase in population over such a short space of time is bound to have a detrimental effect on society, particularly on housing and healthcare. Are you aware that since 2007 England has been the most densely populated country in Europe? That's the EU's fault, not baby boomers. Them voting to buy up all the council housing at huge subsidies and denying it to future generations is down to them. I see. So baby boomers are the spawn of Satan because Thatcher flogged of council houses. I have never rented, owned or lived in a council house, as a child or adult. But if it makes you feel better, I disagreed with the policy of flogging off social housing. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 23, 2022 22:24:44 GMT
· 5.42 million households (79%) led by someone aged 65 or over were owner-occupiers in 2018-19. 1.09 million were social renters (16%) Why am I being stupid can you prove me wrong about the old generation living in under occupied housing Why should a person who has worked all their life and paid taxes move out of their home in the twilight of their years and go through that upheaval to merely 'downsize' so another family can move in? Where do you suggest we cart all these people off to? That's on the government for not building more houses. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2022 22:25:46 GMT
Eh? - who has had a decreasing standard of living in the last 40 years? If you dont have the latest Nike trainers and only have a 30 inch TV you are now living in poverty - you couldn't cope with the standard of living the boomers grew up in.. Well according to The new economics foundation, without a change in Government policy 21.4 million people will be living below a socially acceptable living standard. This ranges from people who cannot afford to eat, keep clean, and stay warm and dry to those falling substantially short of a decent standard of living and likely to be experiencing some form of material deprivation where they cannot afford certain essential items. Sorry, dont believe that for a minute. The idea that almost 30% of the entire UK population are destitute is patent nonsense - ffs this is half term and the airports are packed with people flying away for an autumn break. We now have a whole industry of people delivering fast food to people who cannot be arsed to get off their sofas. If you believe that we currently have Victorian levels of poverty then you really have lost the plot. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 22:30:08 GMT
We simpy encourage them to down size to a bungalow or something
There many of the old generation cant cope living in a big house thats why they have support workers.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 23, 2022 22:34:26 GMT
We simpy encourage them to down size to a bungalow or something There many of the old generation cant cope living in a big house thats why they have support workers. True. But that won't solve the housing crisis. More houses need to be built. That isn't the fault of boomers. They were never obligated to get out their crystal balls and look into the future some 50 years on and worry about 'what ifs'. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 22:43:11 GMT
According to the most recent government council taxbase figures released in November 2021, there are 238,306 homes in England that are classed as long-term empty homes
.yes new housing to be built is part of the problem but you cant dismissed the empty
Housing that has fallen into disrepair mainy because the older generation has let them fall into degeneration.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 23, 2022 22:47:53 GMT
Plus flogging off our gold well below the global value. NL did not flog off all our gold. The proceeds were used in a number of ways: Part of the proceeds were used to buy currency reserves at a time when currencies were boss, Dollar, Yen and one other, which were then placed in the reserves with the remainder of the gold. The currencies then earned interest where gold did not. Some of the proceeds were used to reduce the National Debt, thus reducing the ongoing interest paid on that debt. It wasn't Brown's finest moment, but it wasn't quite as disastrous as his enemies made it out to be. Incidentally the value of gold is declining. Untrue , standard minor fluctuations but vastly higher than at the Brown fiasco The price of gold is currently more than double that when Brown left office in 2010 and roughly 7 times higher than when he stupidly sold off UK gold on the market www.royalmint.com/gold-price/?period=AllTime |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 23:01:01 GMT
We simpy encourage them to down size to a bungalow or something There many of the old generation cant cope living in a big house thats why they have support workers. Why should an old couple who worked hard all their lives in order to have a comfortable retirement downsize in order to appease demanding lazy self obsessed pampered young people who wouldn't know a hard time if they tripped over it. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 23:23:36 GMT
Why do you demonise this countrys younger generation do you not know there more people in work now then there ever has been?
But all you can do is call them freckles lazy so and so.
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