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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 17:51:03 GMT
The cost of living will dominate.
The causes will be blamed on different things according to whoever is doing the blaming.
And saying how much worse other countries are reported to be by those with their axes to grind might make you feel like you're doing your patriotic bit, but it's unlikely to make the majority feel any better.
It's certainly not stopping industrial action in the UK...
Of course the cost of living will dominate people's lives, and this may come as a shock to Tory bashers, but the cost of living crisis is not restricted to the UK. Have you seen what's going on in the EU? The cost of living crisis is due to gas prices and the war in Ukraine, the cost of net-zero and the cost of covid. And lets not even mention a global pandemic. |
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Post by Toreador on Oct 23, 2022 18:32:22 GMT
I watched Steve Baker, (the one that Channel 4 describe as a c***) being interviewed by Sophy Ridge this morning, he put forward the cast iron case against Boris being PM, so I think rather a lot of head scratching will be going on, as a former loyal Tory voter for half a century I have no enthusiasm for any of them, Boris is a nutter, Sunak is a sly Globalist EU loving creepy sort of bloke, and Penny needs to shed a few pounds before she gets my vote. Richard Tice for me I'm afraid. I think Tice may be a little tame for the job but preferable to the other party leaders. I think it a shame that Mordaunt appears to be failing to get support but I'd rather her than the alternative(s). She has the experience and is far less controversial than Boris or Sunak. Apart from that, the Tories need something new in terms of leadership, they've had a string of misfits. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 18:34:20 GMT
The Borris supporters on here will be wetting themselves if Borris doesn't get elected Come on sunak you can do it The support Sunak gets from the left shows two things for me. 1. They think Sunak is beatable by Starmer and 2. They like his socialist policies. Sunak is not a proper Tory. He's a wet Tory. Boris can beat Starmer, he is a genius campaigner. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 18:35:14 GMT
Of course the cost of living will dominate people's lives, and this may come as a shock to Tory bashers, but the cost of living crisis is not restricted to the UK. I doubt very much people will care whether it is restricted to the UK or not. The reality is there is an entire generation that has been screwed from cradle to middle age, and now are facing being screwed to the grave too. They are probably starting to ask themselves why they should buy into a society that has saddled them with debt as students, made it difficult to get a foot on the housing ladder, despite holding down a job, and a society that is expecting them to work to the grave with no realistic possibility of retirement. And then despite all that they are now being put in a position they cant afford basic essentials. The same society that allowed baby boomers to borrow from the future to line their own nests, putting who came before and who came after in the poorhouse, then to add insult to injury are still milking everyone dry through demands of triple lock pensions. I agree, people who are worried about the cost of living are unlikely to be thinking about other countries. I don't quite understand your comment ref an entire generation being screwed from cradle to grave. Student debt is in many cases unnecessary self-inflicted debt for no other reason than kids these days consider university a rite of passage regardless of ability. Kids or young people call them what you will, think nothing of being in debt these days it's the norm. Financial incompetence is passed down from parents to kids. The thought of saving for an item rather than going into debt is an absolute anathema for young people today. I'm a so called baby boomer and I've never borrowed money in my life. I have never bought anything on credit, it's how my mother bought us up, if we couldn't afford it, we saved for it or went without. While I'm talking about my privileged boomer childhood; mum would put coats on our beds in the winter, no such thing as central heating or double glazing in those days, and when we woke up we would scrape ice of the inside of the bedroom windows and wash in cold water before walking to school through 2ft of snow to sit in a cold classroom. And believe me, no one complained or thought they were hard done by. You people are soft. Mrs R and I live relatively comfortably today, we own our own property, and owe not one single penny to anyone. We live debt free and it's a nice feeling, but believe me it didn't happen by accident. We worked bloody hard to get to this point, we saved more than we could reasonably afford to secure our future and we never relied on credit. Young people today wouldn't understand. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 18:47:33 GMT
Redreckam I remember you moaning and being very bitter a couple off years ago because you couldn't receive any Benefits.
Why did you want to receive social welfare if you and your mrs are comfortably well off
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Post by vlk on Oct 23, 2022 19:11:35 GMT
Even though Boris won the election three years ago with a landslide and even though that was only three years ago it still was the pre-covid era.
Since covid the world has changed permanently. None of the old rules apply any longer. A different ball-game altogether.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 19:11:46 GMT
Redreckam I remember you moaning and being very bitter a couple off years ago because you couldn't receive any Benefits. Why did you want to receive social welfare if you and your mrs are comfortably well off TTL, I'm going to be generous and say, you are wrong. I remember very well the discussion you refer to. When I retired, I was prompted by someone to enquire about certain benefits that I may be entitled to, benefits that I subsequently discovered I did not qualify for. I was unsurprised and was certainly not bitter about it. For the record, I have never claimed one thin penny in benefits of any sort in my life. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 23, 2022 19:17:24 GMT
Redreckam I remember you moaning and being very bitter a couple off years ago because you couldn't receive any Benefits. Why did you want to receive social welfare if you and your mrs are comfortably well off TTL, I'm going to be generous and say, you are wrong. I remember very well the discussion you refer to. When I retired, I was prompted by someone to enquire about certain benefits that I may be entitled to, benefits that I subsequently discovered I did not qualify for. I was unsurprised and was certainly not bitter about it. For the record, I have never claimed one thin penny in benefits of any sort in my life. Sad part is Red, we've got thousands landing illegally by the day, never paid a penny in to our tax system, but will be eligible to claim for everything you can't.
Crazy Crazy.
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Post by Morgan on Oct 24, 2022 8:32:37 GMT
Redreckam I remember you moaning and being very bitter a couple off years ago because you couldn't receive any Benefits. Why did you want to receive social welfare if you and your mrs are comfortably well off TTL, I'm going to be generous and say, you are wrong. I remember very well the discussion you refer to. When I retired, I was prompted by someone to enquire about certain benefits that I may be entitled to, benefits that I subsequently discovered I did not qualify for. I was unsurprised and was certainly not bitter about it. For the record, I have never claimed one thin penny in benefits of any sort in my life. Well all I can say is fucking lucky you. Hundreds of thousands of decent, hard working people have to claim welfare through no fault of their own. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 24, 2022 9:35:37 GMT
TTL, I'm going to be generous and say, you are wrong. I remember very well the discussion you refer to. When I retired, I was prompted by someone to enquire about certain benefits that I may be entitled to, benefits that I subsequently discovered I did not qualify for. I was unsurprised and was certainly not bitter about it. For the record, I have never claimed one thin penny in benefits of any sort in my life. Well all I can say is fucking lucky you. Hundreds of thousands of decent, hard working people have to claim welfare through no fault of their own. And many hundreds more abuse it and think that the tax payers owe them a living. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 12:10:20 GMT
Redreckam I remember you moaning and being very bitter a couple off years ago because you couldn't receive any Benefits. Why did you want to receive social welfare if you and your mrs are comfortably well off TTL, I'm going to be generous and say, you are wrong. I remember very well the discussion you refer to. When I retired, I was prompted by someone to enquire about certain benefits that I may be entitled to, benefits that I subsequently discovered I did not qualify for. I was unsurprised and was certainly not bitter about it. For the record, I have never claimed one thin penny in benefits of any sort in my life. Hmm, Never been to a hospital, GP or dentist then? Never turned on a light, used gas, drank water or boarded a train? Never been to a library, park or public baths? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 24, 2022 12:20:05 GMT
Don't be daft, Dead Horse.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 24, 2022 12:25:03 GMT
I agree many abused the system for years
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 12:41:28 GMT
Don't be daft, Dead Horse. I have not said anything to you.  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 24, 2022 12:46:11 GMT
Public forum, mush. I get to comment on anything that you come out with on it. That's how these things work.
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