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Post by see2 on May 3, 2023 17:31:23 GMT
But giving the opposition the benefit of the doubt for a change, just might be enough to change things for the so far mundane face of politics. LOL that is the worst example of a party political broadcast on behalf of the Westminster party I can honestly say I have seen for a while. What the feck isn't mundane about you or your political support? Thanks for once again exposing in your post the innate stupidity you are capable of posting LOL |
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Post by sheepy on May 3, 2023 17:32:29 GMT
LOL that is the worst example of a party political broadcast on behalf of the Westminster party I can honestly say I have seen for a while. What the feck isn't mundane about you or your political support? Thanks for once again exposing in your post the innate stupidity you are capable of posting LOL Answer the question instead. OH but wait maybe you did. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 17:36:28 GMT
Not without good reason, the more we peer into the murky depths of Starmers rather nasty anti sematic Tory haters the more frightened we become. Over the next year the Labour Party will be under the spotlight and I suspect we will all be left with the feeling that they simply aren't up to scratch. Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism. I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is no longer split, or involved in a civil war any more - indeed it is the Conservative Party which is now fighting amongst themselves. |
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Post by Toreador on May 3, 2023 17:46:25 GMT
Not without good reason, the more we peer into the murky depths of Starmers rather nasty anti sematic Tory haters the more frightened we become. Over the next year the Labour Party will be under the spotlight and I suspect we will all be left with the feeling that they simply aren't up to scratch. Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism. I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is no longer split, or involved in a civil war any more - indeed it is the Conservative Party which is now fighting amongst themselves. Of course he has, his legal work is in a heavily Semitic environment |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 18:00:49 GMT
Not without good reason, the more we peer into the murky depths of Starmers rather nasty anti sematic Tory haters the more frightened we become. Over the next year the Labour Party will be under the spotlight and I suspect we will all be left with the feeling that they simply aren't up to scratch. Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism.I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is no longer split, or involved in a civil war any more - indeed it is the Conservative Party which is now fighting amongst themselves. Except Israeli racism towards its Arab minority and the oppressed Palestinians of course. He doesn't give a shit about that particular brand of racism. That the left did was regularly weaponised against them and falsely labelled as antisemitism. A few shocking cases of real antisemitism thus got mixed up in a tide of conflation and exaggeration, and Corbyn himself has been effectively thrown out as a Labour MP for uttering this truth, refusing to recant, and refusing to apologise for telling this truth. It is positively Orwellian and much of the public have bought into this lie. From Cable Street to Apartheid, the left in this country have always been the staunchest opponents of racism. And now the establishment both inside and outside the party have done a number on us by convincing so many that WE are the racist ones!!! You will no doubt be back to call me an antisemite yourself, believing the bollocks the establishmentarian elites want you to. Just because I dare to face down the lie with truth. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 18:04:09 GMT
Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism. I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is no longer split, or involved in a civil war any more - indeed it is the Conservative Party which is now fighting amongst themselves. Of course he has, his legal work is in a heavily Semitic environment Are you trying to insinuate that the legal profession is being overrun by disproportionate numbers of Jews? Without statistical evidence to support such an assertion this looks dangerously close to being an antisemitic trope. |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 3, 2023 19:17:02 GMT
No, giving politicians the benefit of the doubt is what gets us into the shit we are in now But giving the opposition the benefit of the doubt for a change, just might be enough to change things for the so far mundane face of politics. But we did that in 1979, 1997, 2010 and 2019 and look where it got us |
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Post by Toreador on May 3, 2023 20:33:04 GMT
Of course he has, his legal work is in a heavily Semitic environment Without statistical evidence to support such an assertion this looks dangerously close to being an antisemitic trope. No, now piss off instead of raising a non-issue. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 21:10:12 GMT
Are you trying to insinuate that the legal profession is being overrun by disproportionate numbers of Jews? Without statistical evidence to support such an assertion this looks dangerously close to being an antisemitic trope. No, now piss off instead of raising a non-issue. Well what did you mean then by saying that as a lawyer Starmer worked in a semitic environment? Looks like an antisemitic trope to me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 21:13:24 GMT
But giving the opposition the benefit of the doubt for a change, just might be enough to change things for the so far mundane face of politics. But we did that in 1979, 1997, 2010 and 2019 and look where it got us Well of course kicking out establishmentarians A by voting in establishmentarians B is not really a vote for meaningful change at all. Until the sheeple start to understand that, things are only ever going to get worse |
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Post by Pacifico on May 3, 2023 21:13:32 GMT
Not without good reason, the more we peer into the murky depths of Starmers rather nasty anti sematic Tory haters the more frightened we become. Over the next year the Labour Party will be under the spotlight and I suspect we will all be left with the feeling that they simply aren't up to scratch. Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism. I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. You mean the type of people that Starmer was campaigning to put into Government and who he wanted to be Prime Minister? Or did you have some other anti-semitic politicians in mind? |
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Post by Toreador on May 4, 2023 5:41:33 GMT
No, now piss off instead of raising a non-issue. Well what did you mean then by saying that as a lawyer Starmer worked in a semitic environment? Looks like an antisemitic trope to me.Of course it does, that's how you want it to look and how you want to pick a fight; now stop being a dickhead though you may find that difficult. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 6:46:01 GMT
Well what did you mean then by saying that as a lawyer Starmer worked in a semitic environment? Looks like an antisemitic trope to me.Of course it does, that's how you want it to look and how you want to pick a fight; now stop being a dickhead though you may find that difficult. You are the one who stated that Starmer worked in a semitic environment and subsequently been unable to defend or explain such an apparently antisemitic statement. But then again I suppose you have form when it comes to racism, having not that long ago spoke in favour of Ian Smith and his white racist regime in Rhodesia. You try to hide it but it keeps leaking out in unguarded moments. |
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Post by see2 on May 4, 2023 8:27:28 GMT
Clever attempt, however Keir Starmer has a 100% proven track record of been vehemently opposed to anti-semitisms, as well as all forms of racism.I think you got mixed up with the very much diminished, and rather irrelevant far left of the party, and the few Corbyn supporters that are left in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is no longer split, or involved in a civil war any more - indeed it is the Conservative Party which is now fighting amongst themselves. Except Israeli racism towards its Arab minority and the oppressed Palestinians of course. He doesn't give a shit about that particular brand of racism. That the left did was regularly weaponised against them and falsely labelled as antisemitism. A few shocking cases of real antisemitism thus got mixed up in a tide of conflation and exaggeration, and Corbyn himself has been effectively thrown out as a Labour MP for uttering this truth, refusing to recant, and refusing to apologise for telling this truth. It is positively Orwellian and much of the public have bought into this lie. From Cable Street to Apartheid, the left in this country have always been the staunchest opponents of racism. And now the establishment both inside and outside the party have done a number on us by convincing so many that WE are the racist ones!!! You will no doubt be back to call me an antisemite yourself, believing the bollocks the establishmentarian elites want you to. Just because I dare to face down the lie with truth. There are around 1.5million Palestinians living inside Israel, with equal rights. And hundreds more who work inside Israel every working day. The Palestinian Israelis suffered apartheid / second class citizenship for over 1400 years under the Palestinian Arabs. When the Israelis were offered jurisdiction over part of Palestine the Palestinian Arabs and other Muslim countries decided that violence was the answer that would allow Palestinian Arabs to control the whole of the area of Palestine. Had the Israelis been allowed to live in peace from 1948, we would be looking at a very different set-up in the Area. It is undoubtedly true that in the opinion of many including myself that Netanyahu has gone well over the top in dealing with Palestinian / Muslim violence, and has now got himself into a position where he is partly to blame for the continuing violence. Nevertheless there is nothing that Israel can do that would stop the violence. And violence against them has always been their reason / excuse to continue doing what they are doing. I take it that as far as Netanyahu is concerned it makes little difference whether the Israelis continue on their present path which appear to want to dominate most of Palestine, or if they return to an earlier position, the violence will continue. The answer to peace and justice in the area is not solely in the hands of the Israelis, nor has it ever been since the Muslim armies took control around the 7th / 8th cent (AD). |
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Post by see2 on May 4, 2023 8:34:29 GMT
But giving the opposition the benefit of the doubt for a change, just might be enough to change things for the so far mundane face of politics. But we did that in 1979, 1997, 2010 and 2019 and look where it got us Not withstanding the many improvements made by New Labour who mainly lost office due to an international financial meltdown that was not of their creation. |
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