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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:38:39 GMT
All I see is you trolling the actual discussion with your moronic attempts to police what people say, which in itself is the deflection. The reason you do this is because you object to anyone who objects to their own cultural extermination. You really are that transparent. I see, I am making a perfectly valid point and you feel so threatened by it that you have to resort to accusing me of trolling, typical. Ask yourself, what would the reaction have been if Dianne Abbott had said it? If your culture is being 'exterminated' you do not understand that things have, in the past and are now changing. We do not live the lives of our grand parents as they did not theirs. Change is a process of society. I do not believe there's any 'we' here and came to the conclusion that you're a communist twat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:41:17 GMT
I see, I am making a perfectly valid point and you feel so threatened by it that you have to resort to accusing me of trolling, typical. Ask yourself, what would the reaction have been if Dianne Abbott had said it? If your culture is being 'exterminated' you do not understand that things have, in the past and are now changing. We do not live the lives of our grand parents as they did not theirs. Change is a process of society. I do not believe there's any 'we' here and came to the conclusion that you're a communist twat. Well you have just shown yourself up for what you are.😔
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:42:45 GMT
I do not believe there's any 'we' here and came to the conclusion that you're a communist twat. Well you have just shown yourself up for what you are.😔 Somebody who sees right through you. Perhaps now you will allow the actual topic to play out without your little loony left protest over a word, which you've wrongly attributed to people, because it hasn't been banned yet.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 26, 2023 19:22:32 GMT
That language, cannibal specifically, is not referring to the people it is referring to what happens to communities when large numbers of different cultures are bolted on. It is what the influx does whether that is intentional or not. The word is not used against the people it is used to define what effect that number of people of different cultures do to the local community. It seems the anger as regards language is a manufactured one whereby any opportunity is pounced on to belittle a comment mainly by attributing the comment incorrectly. Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this. It is common currency on the left and at best it is disingenuous at worst it is fraudulent politics. " Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this " 😂 Read this back to me, it is so funny.🤣 For someone who puts great store on language then it helps to actually understand what has been said, what people say has been said and what the accusations against people are. There is a great movement to actually misuse what has been said as a deliberate means of belittling or denigrating people and what they have actually said. Abbott did not say anything that was anti semitic or do you think she did? By the same token the words used by Jenrick were not directed at people despite your continued assertion it was, it was directed at the effect upon the local culture. I wonder why that is so hard to understand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 19:38:40 GMT
You are making my point exactly. In Germany, pre war, the jews were demonised by the language you are using to explain why it is perfectly all right and we all know what that language led to. No it isn't we don't censor Jews, well not all of us. So we do censor other groups of people but we would not use the term described in any context referring to jews?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 19:41:32 GMT
Well you have just shown yourself up for what you are.😔 Somebody who sees right through you. Perhaps now you will allow the actual topic to play out without your little loony left protest over a word, which you've wrongly attributed to people, because it hasn't been banned yet. What has anything I have said 'mark' me out as a communist, you obviously have no understanding of the words you use and therefore sound rather silly. It is my understanding that if someone makes a point that you do not like then they are trolling, in other words censorship.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 26, 2023 19:47:32 GMT
No it isn't we don't censor Jews, well not all of us. So we do censor other groups of people but we would not use the term described in any context referring to jews? Abbott has made the comments she did say about white people for years yet was widely accepted. Her mistake was to refer to Jews, who are usually part of the white group and that opened the can of worms for her removal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 21:07:58 GMT
" Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this " 😂 Read this back to me, it is so funny.🤣 For someone who puts great store on language then it helps to actually understand what has been said, what people say has been said and what the accusations against people are. There is a great movement to actually misuse what has been said as a deliberate means of belittling or denigrating people and what they have actually said. Abbott did not say anything that was anti semitic or do you think she did? By the same token the words used by Jenrick were not directed at people despite your continued assertion it was, it was directed at the effect upon the local culture. I wonder why that is so hard to understand. That's easy. It's the usual loony left hypocrisy and the absolute intolerance of all opinion other than their own. It has to be no-platformed with non-stop faux outrage over a word to prevent people discussing the topic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 6:22:12 GMT
" Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this " 😂 Read this back to me, it is so funny.🤣 For someone who puts great store on language then it helps to actually understand what has been said, what people say has been said and what the accusations against people are. There is a great movement to actually misuse what has been said as a deliberate means of belittling or denigrating people and what they have actually said. Abbott did not say anything that was anti semitic or do you think she did? By the same token the words used by Jenrick were not directed at people despite your continued assertion it was, it was directed at the effect upon the local culture. I wonder why that is so hard to understand. You are seriously saying that migrants are not people? The immigration minister told the audience: “Put simply, excessive, uncontrolled migration threatens to cannibalise that compassion that marks out the British people.”
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Post by sheepy on Apr 27, 2023 6:38:46 GMT
No it isn't we don't censor Jews, well not all of us. So we do censor other groups of people but we would not use the term described in any context referring to jews? Of course people are censored daily until there is nobody left to censor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 6:43:19 GMT
So we do censor other groups of people but we would not use the term described in any context referring to jews? Of course people are censored daily until there is nobody left to censor. By whom?
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 27, 2023 6:48:16 GMT
The muslims have made their intentions very clear. What - ALL of them? Just asking, because I have Muslim friends who don't seem even remotely interested in starting any kind of European Caliphate. Quite frankly, they're far more concerned with just getting on with their lives and rubbing along with everyone as best they can. Do you think they're lying? Have you ever read any of the polls of muslim opinion? About a quarter want to introduce sharia law, for example and over half disagree with the legalisation of homosexuality. Plainly the majority of muslims are not that interested in "activism" - they're perfectly happy picking up their benefits and living a quiet life - preferably in their own communities. The question about whether "ALL of muslims ...." do anything, or think a particular thing is a typical Leftie deflection tactic. No group of people can be said to ALL think in a particular way. But when you ask muslims questions in anonymous polls you get some very worrying answers. For example violence is regarded as acceptable to defend their views by a significant minority. As for the intention to displace muslims to the West to destabilise our society it doesn't need ALL of muslims to agree with this or participate in promoting it. It just needs a few activists to cause it to happen. The same is true of terrorism. By no means ALL of muslims agree with terrorism - it's a minority who do - but there are enough of them to occupy the whole of MI5 full time attempting to keep the lid on their activities. And they still can't do it. The problem is that we can't look at muslim and know if they're dangerous. All muslims are certainly not terrorists. But we do know that virtually all terrorists now are muslims.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 27, 2023 6:48:46 GMT
Of course people are censored daily until there is nobody left to censor. By whom? By the media, by the Establishment, by politicians and uncle Tom cobbly and all. As a populist I have always believed in your right to opinion and if you cannot answer that right if its bollox with an answer which is common sense then bigger fool you. You have accepted that you need to be controlled.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 27, 2023 7:00:10 GMT
Imagine, just for a second the furore if "channel migrants" had been replaced by "Jews". The language of pre war Germany is alive and well in England. That's exactly what the muslims rely on to shut down any debate about muslims and Islam. They invoke the comparison with Hitler's treatment of Jews. But it's a completely different thing. The problem with muslims is their culture and the toxic ideas spread by the koran - which has led to the rise of closed communities of muslims who try to enforce their ideas on everybody else. Look what happens to anyone who criticises the religion of Islam or desecrates a copy of the koran. Jew hating is pure "racism".
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 8:27:32 GMT
For someone who puts great store on language then it helps to actually understand what has been said, what people say has been said and what the accusations against people are. There is a great movement to actually misuse what has been said as a deliberate means of belittling or denigrating people and what they have actually said. Abbott did not say anything that was anti semitic or do you think she did? By the same token the words used by Jenrick were not directed at people despite your continued assertion it was, it was directed at the effect upon the local culture. I wonder why that is so hard to understand. You are seriously saying that migrants are not people? The immigration minister told the audience: “Put simply, excessive, uncontrolled migration threatens to cannibalise that compassion that marks out the British people.” Well let us put it this way. "The once fortnightly flood of football supporters into the town brings with it drunkenness and crime and affects the peaceful lives of the residents with people urinating in gardens and crowds walking in the roads disrupting traffic movement" That sentence is not saying the football crowd is not human but the effect of any large crowd on an area has many negative aspects. Recognising that fact is very important and the people of the UK are, strange as it may seem, more important than people entering illegally and if the numbers entering illegally are causing problems for the British people, and there is no doubt they are, then the British people's wishes and concerns should take centre stage.
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