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Post by Bentley on Apr 26, 2023 15:15:13 GMT
Can you point out the time in’ pre war ‘Germany when Germany was inundated with Jewish migrants? Why would I need to do that. The text is about migrants changing our culture. Nope it’s about lefties using a lame form of Godwin’s law to stifle debate about negative effects of an uncontrolled influx of migrants .
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Post by sandypine on Apr 26, 2023 15:46:08 GMT
I can't imagine why anyone would replace "channel migrants" with "jews", the former makes total sense, the present influx of people from (mainly) the middle east and north Africa are introducing completely different lifestyles, often in an aggressive and intrusive manner, Jewish immigrants did retain their own cultures in a quiet and unobtrusive way, so to suggest that both situations are the same doesn't make sense. Unless you are a leftie trying to score a point which can't intellegently be made that is. The most intrusive things the Jewish immigrants have done is introduce bagels to our cafes, not really the same as grooming gangs, drug cartels, organised crime and female genital mutilation is it? It's is the language used that is the problem, not the actions. Specifically what language would you prefer and which words would you replace?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 16:01:52 GMT
Why would I need to do that. The text is about migrants changing our culture. Nope it’s about lefties using a lame form of Godwin’s law to stifle debate about negative effects of an uncontrolled influx of migrants . Nope, there is no context were using the words "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives would be acceptable if referring to Jewish people, none. This is a racist slur and if you cannot see that, you have a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 16:04:36 GMT
It's is the language used that is the problem, not the actions. Specifically what language would you prefer and which words would you replace? The word "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives is meant to scare and intimidate people. It appears that language that would be deemed racist if said about one set of people is perfectly acceptable to be used against another set of people. That is the definition of "racist".
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Post by sandypine on Apr 26, 2023 16:11:00 GMT
Nope it’s about lefties using a lame form of Godwin’s law to stifle debate about negative effects of an uncontrolled influx of migrants . Nope, there is no context were using the words "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives would be acceptable if referring to Jewish people, none. This is a racist slur and if you cannot see that, you have a problem. Yes there is. Jewish people arriving in Germany in the early 20th century managed to cannibalise many of the social systems to allow observance of the Jewish Sabbath. I am not saying that is fact I am asking what is wrong with it. Cannibalisation means making a whole by taking bits of other things.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 26, 2023 16:11:46 GMT
Nope it’s about lefties using a lame form of Godwin’s law to stifle debate about negative effects of an uncontrolled influx of migrants . Nope, there is no context were using the words "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives would be acceptable if referring to Jewish people, none. This is a racist slur and if you cannot see that, you have a problem. They are not Jewish people . The fact they you keep bleating Godwin’s law crap in an attempt to link two different things means that you are your own problem .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 16:26:56 GMT
Specifically what language would you prefer and which words would you replace? The word "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives is meant to scare and intimidate people. It appears that language that would be deemed racist if said about one set of people is perfectly acceptable to be used against another set of people. That is the definition of "racist". People like RedRum have no respect for anything and is just buttsore because his mentor is about to be slung out of Labour, along with Corbyn, for attacking the Jews.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 26, 2023 17:42:12 GMT
Specifically what language would you prefer and which words would you replace? The word "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives is meant to scare and intimidate people. It appears that language that would be deemed racist if said about one set of people is perfectly acceptable to be used against another set of people. That is the definition of "racist". That language, cannibal specifically, is not referring to the people it is referring to what happens to communities when large numbers of different cultures are bolted on. It is what the influx does whether that is intentional or not. The word is not used against the people it is used to define what effect that number of people of different cultures do to the local community. It seems the anger as regards language is a manufactured one whereby any opportunity is pounced on to belittle a comment mainly by attributing the comment incorrectly. Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this. It is common currency on the left and at best it is disingenuous at worst it is fraudulent politics.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 17:47:52 GMT
Nope, there is no context were using the words "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives would be acceptable if referring to Jewish people, none. This is a racist slur and if you cannot see that, you have a problem. Yes there is. Jewish people arriving in Germany in the early 20th century managed to cannibalise many of the social systems to allow observance of the Jewish Sabbath. I am not saying that is fact I am asking what is wrong with it. Cannibalisation means making a whole by taking bits of other things. You are making my point exactly. In Germany, pre war, the jews were demonised by the language you are using to explain why it is perfectly all right and we all know what that language led to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 17:50:26 GMT
Nope, there is no context were using the words "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives would be acceptable if referring to Jewish people, none. This is a racist slur and if you cannot see that, you have a problem. They are not Jewish people . The fact they you keep bleating Godwin’s law crap in an attempt to link two different things means that you are your own problem . You 'appear' to be saying that language used for one set of people is acceptable but not for another set of people and that is the definition of racism. Do you believe that had that language been used about Jews, it would not have been considered racist?
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Post by sheepy on Apr 26, 2023 17:50:31 GMT
Yes there is. Jewish people arriving in Germany in the early 20th century managed to cannibalise many of the social systems to allow observance of the Jewish Sabbath. I am not saying that is fact I am asking what is wrong with it. Cannibalisation means making a whole by taking bits of other things. You are making my point exactly. In Germany, pre war, the jews were demonised by the language you are using to explain why it is perfectly all right and we all know what that language led to. No it isn't we don't censor Jews, well not all of us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 17:52:29 GMT
The word "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives is meant to scare and intimidate people. It appears that language that would be deemed racist if said about one set of people is perfectly acceptable to be used against another set of people. That is the definition of "racist". People like RedRum have no respect for anything and is just buttsore because his mentor is about to be slung out of Labour, along with Corbyn, for attacking the Jews. You are, of course, deflecting from the question. Do you think language unacceptable to be used for one set of people is right to be used against another?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 17:54:21 GMT
The word "cannibal" or any of it's derivatives is meant to scare and intimidate people. It appears that language that would be deemed racist if said about one set of people is perfectly acceptable to be used against another set of people. That is the definition of "racist". That language, cannibal specifically, is not referring to the people it is referring to what happens to communities when large numbers of different cultures are bolted on. It is what the influx does whether that is intentional or not. The word is not used against the people it is used to define what effect that number of people of different cultures do to the local community. It seems the anger as regards language is a manufactured one whereby any opportunity is pounced on to belittle a comment mainly by attributing the comment incorrectly. Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this. It is common currency on the left and at best it is disingenuous at worst it is fraudulent politics. " Bridgen has suffered this, Abbott has suffered this (although I have little sympathy for her) and Braverman has suffered this " 😂 Read this back to me, it is so funny.🤣
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:23:31 GMT
People like RedRum have no respect for anything and is just buttsore because his mentor is about to be slung out of Labour, along with Corbyn, for attacking the Jews. You are, of course, deflecting from the question. Do you think language unacceptable to be used for one set of people is right to be used against another? All I see is you trolling the actual discussion with your moronic attempts to police what people say, which in itself is the deflection. The reason you do this is because you object to anyone who objects to their own cultural extermination. You really are that transparent.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:31:42 GMT
You are, of course, deflecting from the question. Do you think language unacceptable to be used for one set of people is right to be used against another? All I see is you trolling the actual discussion with your moronic attempts to police what people say, which in itself is the deflection. The reason you do this is because you object to anyone who objects to their own cultural extermination. You really are that transparent. I see, I am making a perfectly valid point and you feel so threatened by it that you have to resort to accusing me of trolling, typical. Ask yourself, what would the reaction have been if Dianne Abbott had said it? If your culture is being 'exterminated' you do not understand that things have, in the past and are now changing. We do not live the lives of our grand parents as they did not theirs. Change is a process of society.
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