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Post by sandypine on May 1, 2023 19:19:57 GMT
So one can advocate a moral stance in language but take a non moral stance in one'sown use of language. I sense a bit of hypocrisy. You are just playing with words, one can have a justifiable high moral stance without being perfect. As the old Roman saying goes, ' perfection is for the Gods'  Playing with words is primarily the subject we are discussing. Perfection is not the issue, adopting the moral high ground whilst joining everyone in the swamp is exceedingly far from perfection. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 6:37:01 GMT
Did the use "scum, attack, stolen, brutal, cruel, inhumane, trash, torpedo, feud, dirty" vulnerable asylum seekers? Lets face it the Tories are appalling with their use of language, here are some 'enemies of the people'. Judges. Lefty lawyers. The civil service, Railway workers. Nurses. Teachers. Doctors. Protesters. Not an exhaustive list, just of the top of my head. The point is if you wish to inhabit the moral high ground then you must live that life. If you step down to engage in linguistic fisticuffs in a tit for tat fashion then you lose that moral position. As regards 'asylum seekers' the public are only too aware it is a bit of a game all round and are increasingly annoyed that our government cannot get to grips with it. They are beginning to suspect, and in fact believe, that it is a deliberate policy to what end goodness knows. There is no sense to it when aligned with our net zero programme. Typical Tory comment, "I can say what I want in any language I wish to use but you cannot because you want the moral high ground". This attitude has happened for a long time and the Tories have used it well but, hopefully, Labour have realised that to fight liars and tyrants you have to stoop down to their level. |
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Post by sandypine on May 2, 2023 9:05:11 GMT
The point is if you wish to inhabit the moral high ground then you must live that life. If you step down to engage in linguistic fisticuffs in a tit for tat fashion then you lose that moral position. As regards 'asylum seekers' the public are only too aware it is a bit of a game all round and are increasingly annoyed that our government cannot get to grips with it. They are beginning to suspect, and in fact believe, that it is a deliberate policy to what end goodness knows. There is no sense to it when aligned with our net zero programme. Typical Tory comment, "I can say what I want in any language I wish to use but you cannot because you want the moral high ground". This attitude has happened for a long time and the Tories have used it well but, hopefully, Labour have realised that to fight liars and tyrants you have to stoop down to their level. No, you can use language as effectively as anyone. What is at issue is if you complain about the language of others in the first instance, and you are complaining, and did in the first instance, then it is fair game for others to point out how hypocritical that stance is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 12:37:11 GMT
Typical Tory comment, "I can say what I want in any language I wish to use but you cannot because you want the moral high ground". This attitude has happened for a long time and the Tories have used it well but, hopefully, Labour have realised that to fight liars and tyrants you have to stoop down to their level. No, you can use language as effectively as anyone. What is at issue is if you complain about the language of others in the first instance, and you are complaining, and did in the first instance, then it is fair game for others to point out how hypocritical that stance is. How can it possibly be hypocritical when people like you appear to agree with the language being used? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 12:55:39 GMT
11 pages of protesting over the use of a word, because he doesn't like it.
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Post by see2 on May 2, 2023 13:51:48 GMT
You are just playing with words, one can have a justifiable high moral stance without being perfect. As the old Roman saying goes, ' perfection is for the Gods' Playing with words is primarily the subject we are discussing. Perfection is not the issue, adopting the moral high ground whilst joining everyone in the swamp is exceedingly far from perfection. You use extreme language in order to make your none existing point. Having a tendency to be morally reasonable is not an extreme fixed position, to insinuate that the opposite is joining everyone in the swamp is extreme language. i.e. in your language one is either extremely moral, perfection, or one is in a swamp, as far away from perfection as one can get. Which is clearly your posted nonsense. |
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Post by sandypine on May 2, 2023 15:30:44 GMT
No, you can use language as effectively as anyone. What is at issue is if you complain about the language of others in the first instance, and you are complaining, and did in the first instance, then it is fair game for others to point out how hypocritical that stance is. How can it possibly be hypocritical when people like you appear to agree with the language being used? I am not objecting I am merely pointing out your double standards as regards what you object to is dependant on who says it and how closely they align with your point of view. Therein lies the hypocrisy. |
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Post by sandypine on May 2, 2023 15:34:58 GMT
Playing with words is primarily the subject we are discussing. Perfection is not the issue, adopting the moral high ground whilst joining everyone in the swamp is exceedingly far from perfection. You use extreme language in order to make your none existing point. Having a tendency to be morally reasonable is not an extreme fixed position, to insinuate that the opposite is joining everyone in the swamp is extreme language. i.e. in your language one is either extremely moral, perfection, or one is in a swamp, as far away from perfection as one can get. Which is clearly your posted nonsense. It depends how you define morally reasonable and to be clear the word objected to is 'cannibalise', which is hardly on the same level as scum and many other words tossed about freely from the left. |
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