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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 14:37:30 GMT
Fine, I'm not pinning you to the ground and demanding you accept it, even when it's clearly self-evident. if its that self evident , then you will have no trouble proving it? |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 14:46:22 GMT
Loony was posting on here a week or so ago I think, rather subdued since independence has come crashing down around his/her ears, Jaydee has exhausted his supply of expletives and is in a special ward for people with severe Intermittent explosive disorder. Which is a shame, I always enjoyed their convoluted and fanciful arguments for a seperate and desolate Scotland, perhaps they will return to explain why it is ok to use public money to buy personal mobile homes and to think otherwise is a Westminster plot. It's the problem with Scottish Nationalism where it appeals to the sort of people who are easily conned with propaganda. Those who seem to understand this support the Union, even if it's only for financial stability. The Scottish Nationalists (I use the term very lightly) are so disconnected that I don't think they even know what's going on anymore, which is why they're trying to stir up trouble in Wales for their EU masters. Anything bad that happens, like the people being robbed to pay for SNP luxuries, is as you say, all dismissed as England bad.
It's almost comedy.
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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 14:55:59 GMT
It's the problem with Scottish Nationalism where it appeals to the sort of people who are easily conned with propaganda. Those who seem to understand this support the Union, even if it's only for financial stability. The Scottish Nationalists (I use the term very lightly) are so disconnected that I don't think they even know what's going on anymore, which is why they're trying to stir up trouble in Wales for their EU masters. Anything bad that happens, like the people being robbed to pay for SNP luxuries, is as you say, all dismissed as England bad.
It's almost comedy.
Prove that it isn't self-evident. Generally when you make a claim , the onus is on you to back up what you are saying.
I mean every day on this forum im disproving the utter horse manure you post on such a regular basis its becoming increasingly beyond parody.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 14:59:13 GMT
What is it you're actually disputing? Posting abuse, as you do, is not really an argument and only gives further validation to my post.
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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 15:04:19 GMT
What is it you're actually disputing? Posting abuse, as you do, is not really an argument and only gives further validation to my post. follow the thread . How many more diversions and excuses do you have in the locker?
Every thread ,its the same old guff from you. You make a claim , cant back claim up , then rurn off littering threads with diversions bullshit and innuendo , and trying to play last wordism.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 15:05:00 GMT
^^ More abuse... yawns.
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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 15:07:36 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on May 14, 2023 8:49:09 GMT
meanwhile as wales and scotland remain poor in the dysfunctional one sided "union" , the independent republic of ireland is struggling badly with all that surplus cash....... [/div]
[/quote]The Republic of Ireland has of course had proplems with an overheating economy thanks largely to its corporation tax policy for many decades. The policy of offering corporation tax advantages on top of not imposing the penalisations Brown put on us in 1999 but to be fair also the business subsistence chicanery John Major hit us with in 1989 which the irish looked at and mocked led them to receive an influx not quite on a par with Blair’s Polish Plumbers but the impact was huge. The Irish housing market went into realms of stupidity unseen ever, and France and Germany jointly demanded ireland flagellate itself or face crucifixion. Of course, when France and Germany suffered the same overheating no french or german MEP nor anyone in the pay of the french and German voices on the Council of Ministers made the same threat to France and Germany. One rule for them and a quite different one for the rest of us. As always. |
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Post by thomas on May 14, 2023 9:55:49 GMT
meanwhile as wales and scotland remain poor in the dysfunctional one sided "union" , the independent republic of ireland is struggling badly with all that surplus cash.......
Are these alleged problems that bad john , the irish are asking to come back to the safety of the flatlining and extremely damaged uk economy ?
You talk about the unfairness of the bad irish competing with the empire regarding coporation tax advantages , when from all intents and purposes , the irish recently sat on their arses , did nothing , and let britian hamstring itself by voting brexit , while dublin mopped up all the business london lost due to people like you voting out the EU.
The "issues" of the former empire colony daring to compete with blighty pale into insignificance with the self harm you and your fellow brexiters have caused.
There is no "us" john. I wish scotland had these minor wee problems in the EU ireland allegedly has , instead of being shackled to that sinking ship that is brittannia.
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Post by Vinny on May 14, 2023 11:22:08 GMT
The EU wasn't working for the UK. It was a market for 43% of our exports. Now it is a market for 42% of our exports. Our trade with it declined at a rate of 0.6% per year from 2000 to 2016 despite membership. Our trade with it declined at a rate of 0.14% per year since the vote to leave.
We were doing worse, when we were members.
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Post by thomas on May 14, 2023 11:25:46 GMT
The EU wasn't working for the UK. It was a market for 43% of our exports. Now it is a market for 42% of our exports. Our trade with it declined at a rate of 0.6% per year from 2000 to 2016 despite membership. Our trade with it declined at a rate of 0.14% per year since the vote to leave.
We were doing worse, when we were members.
you had your chance vinny , and your tory mates have blown it. Keir the europhile is riding high in the polls , and looking to take the uk back into the eu to make brexit work , and the majority of the uk voters have buyers remorse with brexit.
Nearly two-thirds of Britons now support a referendum on rejoining the European Union, a new poll has shown.
With Britain facing severe economic challenges following the break from its major trading partner, there is growing disillusionment among the population over the promises made by Brexiteers.
you are going back into the EU vincent. Hello fellow european .
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Post by Vinny on May 14, 2023 12:06:09 GMT
A poll ?
Hilarious.
We had a referendum and YOU lost.
Independence from the EU is working.
Devolution is not.
Scrap devolution.
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Post by thomas on May 14, 2023 12:14:12 GMT
one minute , tory brexiters like pacifico tell me we have to take note of eu polls when it suits , now the next you tell me they are hilarious when they arent?
I tell you vinny i cannae keep up with you brexiters.
At least you are still flying the brexit flag unlike some of your more timid and easily cowed henchmen.  |
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Post by thomas on May 14, 2023 12:29:57 GMT
We had a referendum and YOU lost. Independence from the EU is working. Devolution is not. Scrap devolution. does it ever sink in vinny the utter incomprehensible nature of your posts and how what you say is totally contradictory?
You tell me we had a referendum(brexit 2016) and we remainers lost 48/52. Here you champion one result , and imply it must stand forever.
Then you say scrap devolution in the same breath , something YOU lost (anti devolutionists) 25 /75 (scotland 1997) and demand in this instance , as democracy doesnt suit you , it is scrapped?
joined up thinking isnt you forte is it vinny?
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Post by Vinny on May 14, 2023 12:32:22 GMT
Meanwhile the Plaid Cymru numpties are getting nowhere.
They're even less successful than the SNAT cult.
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