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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 18:42:31 GMT
The British Legion have been forced to cancel Poppy Day which is held on the 3rd of November to raise donations to those brave men and women who have served their country by putting themselves in harm's way, some of them die in action, some are horribly injured, some in later life fall on hard times PTSD and other issues. Why has it been cancelled? because of the Rail Strike serving members of the services who traditionally to take to the streets with collecting tins may not get to where they usually collect, All down to the Far-Left Union Leaders who have organised more strike days, causing more inconvenience to the traveling Public, many of whom cannot get to work, Hospital appointments, see loved one who may be gravely ill in Hospital, more damage to our economy, etc etc all down to the Comrades again. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11340405PS just noted an omission by me the collections are organised London at Transport Hubs So working people must never stand up and fight against real terms pay cuts? Might your anger be more usefully deployed against those imposing the real terms pay cuts, without which there would be no need to strike? Are we all expected to just get ever poorer year on year? Or is being a Daily Mail stooge simply more emotionally satisfying? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 18:42:59 GMT
And what government was it that removed many of the restrictions on banking? I will give you a clue it starts with L. So you accept what I said was correct? I accept that austerity was brought about by the banking sector and labours deregulation. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 23, 2022 18:46:58 GMT
So you accept what I said was correct? I accept that austerity was brought about by the banking sector and labours deregulation. Thank you for your honesty and yes I accept Tory Mk2 was as much to blame |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 18:51:26 GMT
So you accept what I said was correct? I accept that austerity was brought about by the banking sector and labours deregulation. New Labour deregulated excessively because they bought into Thatcherism and made it the consensus, continuing Tory policies in this as well as other areas. Inevitably this led to disaster. But the initial response from Labour was a large fiscal stimulus. We have the Tories to blame for the imposition of the subsequent austerity. We also have the Tories to blame for the ideology of Thatcherism in the first place - deregulation and all - which New Labour too eagerly followed. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 23, 2022 19:10:49 GMT
srb7677, long time no see and nice to see you here.
Hope you are well.
Austerity was only necessary because the country is deeply in debt and had a vastly inflated civil service.
Once the good times come, we can think about cutting taxes.
But right now we all need to do our bit especially the richest.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 20:06:28 GMT
I accept that austerity was brought about by the banking sector and labours deregulation. New Labour deregulated excessively because they bought into Thatcherism and made it the consensus, continuing Tory policies in this as well as other areas. Inevitably this led to disaster. But the initial response from Labour was a large fiscal stimulus. We have the Tories to blame for the imposition of the subsequent austerity. We also have the Tories to blame for the ideology of Thatcherism in the first place - deregulation and all - which New Labour too eagerly followed. But this is the problem with labour, they are content to use tory idealism when it suits their own cause. I am not trying to diversify but look how they increased the use of PFI which was introduced by the Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 20:14:51 GMT
New Labour deregulated excessively because they bought into Thatcherism and made it the consensus, continuing Tory policies in this as well as other areas. Inevitably this led to disaster. But the initial response from Labour was a large fiscal stimulus. We have the Tories to blame for the imposition of the subsequent austerity. We also have the Tories to blame for the ideology of Thatcherism in the first place - deregulation and all - which New Labour too eagerly followed. But this is the problem with labour, they are content to use tory idealism when it suits their own cause. I am not trying to diversify but look how they increased the use of PFI which was introduced by the Tories. I agree with you and was a critic of their Tory policies right from the start. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 20:59:41 GMT
funding 100 new NHS hospitals with PFIs
.New Labour had to use PFI to build new hospitals after the shambles the torys left the NHS IN
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Post by Vinny on Oct 23, 2022 21:14:39 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 23, 2022 21:18:38 GMT
The British Legion have been forced to cancel Poppy Day which is held on the 3rd of November to raise donations to those brave men and women who have served their country by putting themselves in harm's way, some of them die in action, some are horribly injured, some in later life fall on hard times PTSD and other issues. Why has it been cancelled? because of the Rail Strike serving members of the services who traditionally to take to the streets with collecting tins may not get to where they usually collect, All down to the Far-Left Union Leaders who have organised more strike days, causing more inconvenience to the traveling Public, many of whom cannot get to work, Hospital appointments, see loved one who may be gravely ill in Hospital, more damage to our economy, etc etc all down to the Comrades again. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11340405PS just noted an omission by me the collections are organised London at Transport Hubs Cant help noticing the troops pictured in the link are not para regiment. Anyone fancy a guess? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 24, 2022 3:40:35 GMT
Exactly. The interest alone would build 10 new hospitals a year and even when our grand kids grand kids have paid this debt off the hospitals will still be in private hands. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2022 3:48:52 GMT
One week before remembrance day, the Union Jack at Rackham Towers is lowered and replaced with a remembrance flag. It's not a ceremony but it is an annual event, and although Mrs R knows it's special to me she doesn't really understand why, and that's fine. It's all I can do to remember people who no one remembers.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 24, 2022 3:54:00 GMT
One week before remembrance day, the Union Jack at Rackham Towers is lowered and replaced with a remembrance flag. It's not a ceremony but it is an annual event, and although Mrs R knows it's special to me she doesn't really understand why, and that's fine. It's all I can do to remember people who no one remembers.Nice one mate.👍👍 |
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 6:07:10 GMT
funding 100 new NHS hospitals with PFIs .New Labour had to use PFI to build new hospitals after the shambles the torys left the NHS IN you didnt fund a hundred hospitals. FFS do you even understand how pfi works?
PFI was so beloved of brown and blair becuase it hid ( at the time) their wastefullness , and the vast majority of the debt , where in scotland for example taxpayers in north lanarkshire would pay £750 million for a school and a new hospital that should have only cost £150 million , was kicked down the road for future incoming administrations and taxpayers to pay.
Very little of it showed up on new labours books , and the snp administration , incoming councils and of course the tories in England ended up footing a large part of labours bills as ever.
It doesnt take any economic skill or imagination to borrow shitloads of cash , overspend and enter the taxpayer into extremely bad financial deals.
New labour cannot be trusted with peoples hard earned cash.
and the snp had to renegotiate many of labours dodgy pfi deals and the shambles they left the scottish nhs in. In my home city of glasgow , they bankrupted glasgow city council refused to pay female council workers equal pay with men , so much so they spent years and millions of pounds of taxpayers cash fighting it in court.
When the snp administration took over glesga city council , they had to sort labours incompetent mess out and foot the bill labour had left , so much so many iconic glaswegian council buildings are now up for sale to pay.
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 6:13:27 GMT
Exactly. The interest alone would build 10 new hospitals a year and even when our grand kids grand kids have paid this debt off the hospitals will still be in private hands. read this jonsky on new labours disasterous pfi scandals. This is an article from ten years ago when new labours dodgy deals were being uncovered. Dont forget they built schools and other infrastructre in scotland like oxgangs primary in edinburgh where walls fell down , and often cost over 5 times the predicted initial cost.
Alert readers will perhaps recall our story on the shocking PFI scandal that saw Labour-run North Lanarkshire Council needlessly throw away almost £600m of public money, because it was only about four hours ago that we published it. But some excellent sleuthing by a keen-eyed reader in the comments has thrown up some startling new information that makes the £729m cost of a £150m school-building programme look an even more appalling piece of financial mismanagement.
The contract was signed in 2006/07, the last year of the Labour-led “Scottish Executive”. Over its two Holyrood administrations from 1999, Labour had managed to under-spend the Scottish block grant to the collective tune of £1.5bn – money which was returned to the Treasury at Westminster because, incredibly, Donald Dewar, Henry McLeish and Jack McConnell just couldn’t think of anything to spend it on.
(£1.5bn would have been enough in 2006 to build the Glasgow [£210m] and Edinburgh [£500m] Airport Rail Links and upgrade the entire A9 to dual-carriageway [£600m], spreading the benefits around the country and with £190m still left over.)
On taking control of the Parliament in 2007, the SNP minority government was able to reach an agreement to recover the money for Scotland over the four years of its first term (see paragraph 19 on page 9 here), so at least this huge sum wasn’t completely lost – although of course, a third of it has in essence been uselessly swallowed up in paying off the PFI debt for this one project alone. But nevertheless, the information leads to a mind-boggling and horrifying conclusion:
A Labour council, operating under a Labour Scottish Executive and a Labour government at Westminster, needed to spend £150m on its schools, but rather than use a small fraction of the effectively free money that was sitting around unspent in the Executive’s coffers, signed off on a PFI contract that would cost Scottish taxpayers £729m to do the exact same job.
Bumbling incompetence is one thing. But if we were the current Scottish Government we’d have police crawling all over North Lanarkshire trying to find out how anything so self-evidently insane, and such an utterly criminal waste of taxpayers’ money, was ever allowed to happen. And when we found out, we’d want to see some bodies hanging from Motherwell lamp-posts before the sun went down.
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