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Post by Handyman on Oct 22, 2022 14:27:09 GMT
@ Handyman So Poppy Day as such has not been cancelled by the British Legion as you claimed?. It is the people who run the Poppy Association Charity that are complaining about the strike on the 3rd November because they claim estimate they stand to lose £1 Million which is what they usually raise at the Transport Hubs on the day serving Members of the Armed Forces in Uniform asking for donations. That is why they are now trying to reorganise at short notice to another day instead of the usual scheduled advertised day, perhaps if you had bothered to research that fact, you would better informed, |
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Post by patman post on Oct 22, 2022 18:32:47 GMT
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Post by wapentake on Oct 22, 2022 23:08:19 GMT
Given that employers will attempt to 'underpay' and reduce working conditions to increase profits, could anyone on here suggest what workers can do, once talks have broken down, to improve their lot? How about disappear up their own arse along with the commies who stir them up. Most of the tossers who attend these Rebellions have never done a hard days work in their lives. Any chance you might tell the hard work you were involved in |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 2:40:21 GMT
How about disappear up their own arse along with the commies who stir them up. Most of the tossers who attend these Rebellions have never done a hard days work in their lives. A bricky. And still am. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 3:16:58 GMT
Any chance you might tell the hard work you were involved in A bricky. And still am. Can you tell me how many consrution jobs has been lost under this Tory Govenment |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 23, 2022 8:10:09 GMT
Can you tell me how many consrution jobs has been lost under this Tory Govenment That’s a fair point,people like train drivers join a Union to protect themselves from exploitation by employers,their income is taxed at source so little chance they get to avoid paying tax. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 11:32:45 GMT
Can you tell me how many consrution jobs has been lost under this Tory Govenment Can you tell me how many jobs were lost due to covid? Or how many jobs have been lost by UK workers own stupidity and greed? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 11:37:44 GMT
Can you tell me how many consrution jobs has been lost under this Tory Govenment That’s a fair point,people like train drivers join a Union to protect themselves from exploitation by employers,their income is taxed at source so little chance they get to avoid paying tax. Construction is booming in the UK.....Look around you and see how many houses that are going up and are in the pipeline. And as for train drivers they are well paid and can easily be replaced by driverless trains. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 23, 2022 12:57:20 GMT
Yes, my son works for a large London based Construction Company on big builds they are running flat out to meet demand the wages are good for the skilled workers, but most of them do not earn anywhere near what Tube and Train Drivers earn,
In the not-too-distant future Tube and mainline Trains will be driverless already happening in other countries, I have yet to see any Union create jobs, but I have seen them destroy jobs priced themselves out of the market
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Post by patman post on Oct 23, 2022 16:04:06 GMT
Totally agree about the call for more pay for tube and train drivers. But what's lost is that the industrial action is to support claims to increase pay for some of the lowest paid employees in the rail industry.
The RMT says the median salary for rail workers is £33,000.
The median salary for rail travel assistants, such as ticket collectors, guards, and information staff, is £33,310.
The median salary for rail construction and maintenance operatives–the people who lay and repair tracks–is £34,998.
Rail transport operatives, such as signallers and drivers’ assistants, earn a median salary of £48,750...
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Post by wapentake on Oct 23, 2022 17:44:06 GMT
That’s a fair point,people like train drivers join a Union to protect themselves from exploitation by employers,their income is taxed at source so little chance they get to avoid paying tax. Construction is booming in the UK.....Look around you and see how many houses that are going up and are in the pipeline. And as for train drivers they are well paid and can easily be replaced by driverless trains. Yes I have looked around and at people like those who worked for P&O,if the unions are so powerful why did that company get away with what they did? It is so fashionable for people to blame the unions,or ordinary people on low pay wanting better pay and conditions. We are still paying for the last financial crisis,even you will too but ask yourself this was it the ordinary people or those on low pay that caused all that? No it wasn’t ,they who walked away with pockets stuffed with cash and laughing because the script reads blame the low paid or those on benefits the easy targets and the right wing rags will back them up on that. The trouble is there are those only too willing to accept the script as gospel whilst the real villains are still in business and we are all out to be made to pay yet again. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 18:01:19 GMT
Construction is booming in the UK.....Look around you and see how many houses that are going up and are in the pipeline. And as for train drivers they are well paid and can easily be replaced by driverless trains. Yes I have looked around and at people like those who worked for P&O,if the unions are so powerful why did that company get away with what they did? It is so fashionable for people to blame the unions,or ordinary people on low pay wanting better pay and conditions. We are still paying for the last financial crisis,even you will too but ask yourself this was it the ordinary people or those on low pay that caused all that? No it wasn’t ,they who walked away with pockets stuffed with cash and laughing because the script reads blame the low paid or those on benefits the easy targets and the right wing rags will back them up on that. The trouble is there are those only too willing to accept the script as gospel whilst the real villains are still in business and we are all out to be made to pay yet again.Ask yourself this. Would there be any jobs anywhere if there were no entrepreneurs or people who are prepared to take risks and employ thousands? |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 23, 2022 18:10:57 GMT
Yes I have looked around and at people like those who worked for P&O,if the unions are so powerful why did that company get away with what they did? It is so fashionable for people to blame the unions,or ordinary people on low pay wanting better pay and conditions. We are still paying for the last financial crisis,even you will too but ask yourself this was it the ordinary people or those on low pay that caused all that? No it wasn’t ,they who walked away with pockets stuffed with cash and laughing because the script reads blame the low paid or those on benefits the easy targets and the right wing rags will back them up on that. The trouble is there are those only too willing to accept the script as gospel whilst the real villains are still in business and we are all out to be made to pay yet again.Ask yourself this. Would there be any jobs anywhere if there were no entrepreneurs or people who are prepared to take risks and employ thousands? Those who caused the last financial crisis aren’t entrepreneurs though they are risk takers I’ll give you that,they took the risks with other peoples money and as I said went away laughing with their pockets full of cash. They are gamblers but without the risk because it’s not their money they’re gambling with. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 18:34:10 GMT
Ask yourself this. Would there be any jobs anywhere if there were no entrepreneurs or people who are prepared to take risks and employ thousands? They are gamblers but without the risk because it’s not their money they’re gambling with. And what government was it that removed many of the restrictions on banking? I will give you a clue it starts with L. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 23, 2022 18:40:29 GMT
Those who caused the last financial crisis aren’t entrepreneurs though they are risk takers I’ll give you that,they took the risks with other peoples money and as I said went away laughing with their pockets full of cash.They are gamblers but without the risk because it’s not their money they’re gambling with. And what government was it that removed many of the restrictions on banking? I will give you a clue it starts with L. So you accept what I said was correct? |
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