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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 8:42:32 GMT
Let's face it we are the laughingstock of the world, we are actively encouraging people traffickers by giving these illegal migrants personal escorts in to the UK. Italy, Germany, France all know these migrants want to get to the UK, they have no intentions of stopping them because they wont to offload them on to us, we should be able to deport them back to the last safe country they left, which would be France, it's turned into a total farce, it's going to end bad. Actually Italy, Germany and France all have their own issues with migrants / refugees, in fact all of these countries have a bigger problem than we do, they all have more migrants than we do. Most migrants / refugees do not head for Britain, its a myth to think they do, but if a migrant or refugee have their mind set on coming the the UK, then no authorities in any European country will stop them. Your not going to solve this problem by passing the problem onto someone else, and if every country passed the migrants back to the last safe country they came from, then Turkey would be overwhelmed with aliens. We have to stop thinking that its someone elses problem and not ours You have to stop thinking it’s our problem . Our problem is that illegal immigrants are being allowed to cross the English Channel . |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2023 8:44:24 GMT
Let's face it we are the laughingstock of the world, we are actively encouraging people traffickers by giving these illegal migrants personal escorts in to the UK. Italy, Germany, France all know these migrants want to get to the UK, they have no intentions of stopping them because they wont to offload them on to us, we should be able to deport them back to the last safe country they left, which would be France, it's turned into a total farce, it's going to end bad. Actually Italy, Germany and France all have their own issues with migrants / refugees, in fact all of these countries have a bigger problem than we do, they all have more migrants than we do. Most migrants / refugees do not head for Britain, its a myth to think they do, but if a migrant or refugee have their mind set on coming the the UK, then no authorities in any European country will stop them. Your not going to solve this problem by passing the problem onto someone else, and if every country passed the migrants back to the last safe country they came from, then Turkey would be overwhelmed with aliens. We have to stop thinking that its someone elses problem and not ours Its the EUSSR's problems and not ours. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 12, 2023 8:50:18 GMT
Actually Italy, Germany and France all have their own issues with migrants / refugees, in fact all of these countries have a bigger problem than we do, they all have more migrants than we do. Most migrants / refugees do not head for Britain, its a myth to think they do, but if a migrant or refugee have their mind set on coming the the UK, then no authorities in any European country will stop them. Your not going to solve this problem by passing the problem onto someone else, and if every country passed the migrants back to the last safe country they came from, then Turkey would be overwhelmed with aliens. We have to stop thinking that its someone elses problem and not ours You have to stop thinking it’s our problem . Our problem is that illegal immigrants are being allowed to cross the English Channel . The French border force are all but supplying them with the dingy's, I wouldn't be surprised if Macron didn't have shares in them. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 8:57:35 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK.
If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them.
I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ?
Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2023 9:01:14 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK. If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them. I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ? Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about. They make it to a safe state in the EUSSR and they usher them onto us. We have enough bloody lazy arsed scum of our own whithout even more being pushed up on us. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 9:02:45 GMT
Actually Italy, Germany and France all have their own issues with migrants / refugees, in fact all of these countries have a bigger problem than we do, they all have more migrants than we do. Most migrants / refugees do not head for Britain, its a myth to think they do, but if a migrant or refugee have their mind set on coming the the UK, then no authorities in any European country will stop them. Your not going to solve this problem by passing the problem onto someone else, and if every country passed the migrants back to the last safe country they came from, then Turkey would be overwhelmed with aliens. We have to stop thinking that its someone elses problem and not ours You have to stop thinking it’s our problem . Our problem is that illegal immigrants are being allowed to cross the English Channel . Allowed by who, if you mean the French they have no obligation to stop asylum seekers. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2023 9:03:35 GMT
Actually Italy, Germany and France all have their own issues with migrants / refugees, in fact all of these countries have a bigger problem than we do, they all have more migrants than we do. Most migrants / refugees do not head for Britain, its a myth to think they do, but if a migrant or refugee have their mind set on coming the the UK, then no authorities in any European country will stop them. Your not going to solve this problem by passing the problem onto someone else, and if every country passed the migrants back to the last safe country they came from, then Turkey would be overwhelmed with aliens. We have to stop thinking that its someone elses problem and not ours You have to stop thinking it’s our problem . Our problem is that illegal immigrants are being allowed to cross the English Channel . France has its own problems with migrants / asylum seekers, you appear to want France to also be responsible for our problems with these migrants as well. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 12, 2023 9:04:06 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK. If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them. I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ? Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about. You're like dumbo Jug ears, who doesn't know the difference between a illegal migrant, a asylum seeker or refugee, the clue is in the title ...'illegal' migrants.
Most of which are not coming from either Syria or Iraq, most of Albanian criminals making their way from Albania to the UK, don't you understand that?
Albania is not in any war conflict, there is no danger to life, they are just criminals heading to the UK to set up their drugs business ... are you really so stupid?
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2023 9:09:03 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK. If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them. I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ? Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about. Theyake it to a safe state inthe EUSSR and they usher them onto us. We have enough bloody lazy arsed scum of our own whithout even more being pushed up on us. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 9:09:19 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK. If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them. I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ? Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about. EU countries are complicit with people trafficking and aiding and abetting illegal crossings to the UK. The illegal migrants are people who have enough resources to employ criminals. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2023 9:11:29 GMT
IF a migrant or refugee sets off from Syria or Iraq with the intent to come to the UK, then it is not the problem of the EU, it is a problem for the UK. If a migrant or refugee is making their way across Europe with the intention of claiming asylum in the UK, then its a problem for the UK, the person or persons are transitioning across Europe heading for the UK, therefore its highly unlikely that any authorities in Italy or France will bother them. I mean how far down the line is it "someone elses problem" ? Why not push all the refugees out of Turkey ( which has more refugees than the whole of Europe and the UK put together ), and force them all back into Syria at gun point, what happens to them then is nothing for us to worry about. You're like dumbo Jug ears, who doesn't know the difference between a illegal migrant, a asylum seeker or refugee, the clue is in the title ...'illegal' migrants.
Most of which are not coming from either Syria or Iraq, most of Albanian criminals making their way from Albania to the UK, don't you understand that?
Albania is not in any war conflict, there is no danger to life, they are just criminals heading to the UK to set up their drugs business ... are you really so stupid?
Maybe at some stage countries will be able to sort the wheat from the chaff, although just how they will do that when many of these people destroy their passports making it more difficult to be able to prove where they come from. (especially as so many migrants etc. speak English). And making it easy to deny reentry into their country of birth. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 9:13:08 GMT
You have to stop thinking it’s our problem . Our problem is that illegal immigrants are being allowed to cross the English Channel . France has its own problems with migrants / asylum seekers, you appear to want France to also be responsible for our problems with these migrants as well. You appear to want France to dump their problems on to the Uk. While the migrants are in France then they are a problem for France . Of your next door neighbour has problems with squatters , would you be ok for your neighbours to find them a way into your house ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 9:18:30 GMT
A large proportion of those claiming Asylum do come from Albania, and as stated in several other topic threads, there ought to be a Fast-Track processing for people from what are essentialy safe countries, I personaly see no reason for anyone from Albania to claim asylum here.
The question therefore is - WHY is there a huge backlog of Albanian asylum seekers ?
The system is not working, the processing is taking far too long, and in my opinion, all or most Albanians should be returned back to Albania.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2023 9:24:00 GMT
France has its own problems with migrants / asylum seekers, you appear to want France to also be responsible for our problems with these migrants as well. You appear to want France to dump their problems on to the Uk. While the migrants are in France then they are a problem for France . Of your next door neighbour has problems with squatters , would you be ok for your neighbours to find them a way into your house ? You are actually advocating that France should take responsibility for our problems with these people crossing the channel. And that would be a case of dumping OUR problems with migrants onto the French who already have their own problems with migrants. The migrants will find ways to migrate from country to country, they don't need help from the French. Your analogy does not face up to the often overwhelming problems that actually exist. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 9:27:25 GMT
You appear to want France to dump their problems on to the Uk. While the migrants are in France then they are a problem for France . Of your next door neighbour has problems with squatters , would you be ok for your neighbours to find them a way into your house ? You are actually advocating that France should take responsibility for our problems with these people crossing the channel. And that would be a case of dumping OUR problems with migrants onto the French who already have their own problems with migrants. The migrants will find ways to migrate from country to country, they don't need help from the French. Your analogy does not face up to the often overwhelming problems that actually exist. They are not ‘ our’ migrants when they are in France . They are on only ‘ our’ migrants when they are here. My analogy is perfectly fine . Your problem is that you can’t address it. |
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